Oh, he's good...

On Feb 10, 5:02*pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:

On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related

While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.

Wil

This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.

Bertie

Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol

True!

in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!

Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.

Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.

Bertie

* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

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I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.


--
Dudley Henriques

On Feb 10, 9:10*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks..
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. *Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol *It
isn't only the *price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One day in the future Dudley.


Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil

On Feb 10, 10:25*pm, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:10*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:





William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. *Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol *It
isn't only the *price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One day in the future Dudley.

Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. *I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil- Hide quoted text -

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Woopsie, furgit the link. Here it tis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW8GR...eature=related

Wil

Don't know if you saw this one as well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A2BPcurREpo&feature=related


Bertie

On Feb 10, 10:46*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Don't know if you saw this one as well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A2BPcurREpo&feature=related

Bertie

I've been to the show, The Flying Circus, several years ago Bertie,
Bealton, VA. Thanks for the link, brings back memories.

Wil

William Hung wrote in news:c078e9d0-9b6c-44d1-8de9-
:

On Feb 10, 10:46*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Don't know if you saw this one as well.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=A2BPcurREpo&feature=related

Bertie

I've been to the show, The Flying Circus, several years ago Bertie,
Bealton, VA. Thanks for the link, brings back memories.


Ah, so you've seen this behaviour before!

There was a guy on the west coast who used to do a routine in a Champ. THe
airplane looked like a wreck and him and a bunch of other "bums" would
assemble it as the airshow went on fighting with each other and parts
falling off. It had rags glued to the trailing edges and li'l Abner type
patches sewn all over it. The guy would take off and the right aileron
would come off just after takeoff. He'd then proceed to do everything the
Champ was capable of with the one aileron missing. I think he had the
ignition rigged to cause a backfire every now and then as well.. Most of
the act was designed to make it look as the the airplane was out of control
and about to crash at any moment...


Bertie

William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:10 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.
Dan- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.
Wil
Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One day in the future Dudley.


Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil
Try the Porter. Expensive but operates off the surface of a dime :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

On Feb 10, 10:43*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:10 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.
* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I'll take y'alls' word for it. *Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol *It
isn't only the *price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.
Wil
Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One day in the future Dudley.

Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. *I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil

Try the Porter. Expensive but operates off the surface of a dime :-)

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

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Oh yeah, I've seen them (videos). Here's a couple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jFm3...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzhrvq7V6W0

My pocket's no where near that deep.

Wil

Try the Porter. Expensive but operates off the surface of a dime :-)

--
Dudley Henriques-

Some of ya'll seem to have flown so many aircraft.

It's insanely expensive today. I see $90 per hour for a 1975 150 M
Commutor, $115 - 125 for a 172R, and $145 for a C182RG.

I haven't asked what the taildragger costs down the way.

I don't know many people who earn that much per hour, that's for sure.
So some guy earning $30 bucks an hour these days gets to do three
hours of labor to have one hour of joy in a 30 year old 150. It's
enough to make you weep.

Well, f0k it. Gonna build something. Soon.