Thielert (Diesel Engines)

Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Bertie,

There's lots of ways you can lose all electrics. Corrosion, lightning,
poor maintenance...
A manual reversion mode


There are lots of ways you can lose a manual connection, too.


Yeah, and when you do the engine doesn't quit. In fact, they go to full
power..


You're not putting up any kind of sensible argument for this at all.


Bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
David Lesher wrote in news:fp1t8e$8vr$4
@reader2.panix.com:

Bertie the Bunyip writes:


There's nothing made up about "No sparks, no power" I wouldn't buy one
because of this. My club was looking at one ofr a Cherokee and decided
against it because of the lack of limp home capability.
What kind of sparks does a Diesel need?





This ine has a FADEC. No electricity and you have a big weight up front.

Worse, in the twin star installation, both engines are tied to an
electrical system that can punch out both at the same time. in this case,
when the gear was retracted...

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0...FADEC-0-a.html

Nice eh?


Bertie

Bertie, in this case the failure was due to the pilots not following the
procedures written in the aircraft manual.
Agree the aircraft is not foolproof, but is.

Flydive wrote in :

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
David Lesher wrote in news:fp1t8e$8vr$4
@reader2.panix.com:

Bertie the Bunyip writes:


There's nothing made up about "No sparks, no power" I wouldn't buy
one because of this. My club was looking at one ofr a Cherokee and
decided against it because of the lack of limp home capability.
What kind of sparks does a Diesel need?





This ine has a FADEC. No electricity and you have a big weight up
front.

Worse, in the twin star installation, both engines are tied to an
electrical system that can punch out both at the same time. in this
case, when the gear was retracted...

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0...FADEC-0-a.html

Nice eh?


Bertie

Bertie, in this case the failure was due to the pilots not following
the procedures written in the aircraft manual.
Agree the aircraft is not foolproof, but is.


I'm aware of that, but it's early days for this airplane. It's a poor
design feature and it will give problems in the future. The point is,
it's not a necessary evil. You could strap an ole kugelfisher injector
in there and even if it failed, the chance of the other engine faiing
for the same reason at the same time is zilch. Not so with this one.


Bertie

Bertie,

in this case,
when the gear was retracted...


While correct on the surface, there was much more to that accident.
Including the pilots blatantly acting against the POH.

Nice, eh?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thomas Borchert wrote in
:

Bertie,

in this case,
when the gear was retracted...


While correct on the surface, there was much more to that accident.
Including the pilots blatantly acting against the POH.

I didn;t say that they didn;t. they obviously did. But it is only a matter
of time until an electrical fault does the same thing without anyone having
done anything wrong until they completely split the electrical systems.
Even then, it;s not a suitable installation for an airplane until they
install a manual reversion for the fadec.


Bertie