Stalls??

On Feb 14, 1:52 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:b0142804-b73a-49e9-8670-
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On Feb 15, 4:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

If you're flying a Luscombe and afraid of stalls, please stop flying it.
Far too many have been wrecked already.

I don't understand this, are you saying that they stall all the time -
please explain?

No, but the stall, while not violent, is not as wussy as a 150 or
cherokee's stall. It's one of the easiest to spin light airplanes ever (
it's stall-spin accident rate is ferocious) and it's approach speed is
neccesarily fairly low so as to avoid floating. It's a wonderful airplane.
I've owned three. But it is not an airplane that suffers fools gladly. And
anyone who flies one and shies away form stalling it because it makes him
uncomfortable is a future statistic. You have to know every way that
airplane can enter a spin and what every type of stall looks and feels like
or you are not safe to fly it.

Bertie

MIght I ask a (possibly) stupid question about stall practice?

If you start at a safe altitude (I know, what's safe...) say 7-9K ft H
above G...what's the problem (given a plane that's relatively docile)?

Folks I used to jump with (ram-air wings) were always twitchy about
stalling their canopies in flight (but did so to land, go figger).
First time I tried it I had a good scare (no instructor seat in a
harness) because the ram-air chute collapses when it stalls giving you
a good sudden 2' drop, then wads up into a semicircular mini-round
chute and you start dropping *backwards* and down at 40-50mph.

Point being, you don't try this at 500' feet in a chute but at 1500'
or above, why not? Same with a plane...altitude is life. If you
don't know what either rig feels like 'on the edges' then you are an
incipient statistic whenever the situation gets just a little snarky.

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On Feb 14, 1:52 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
news:b0142804-b73a-49e9-8670-
:

On Feb 15, 4:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

If you're flying a Luscombe and afraid of stalls, please stop
flying it. Far too many have been wrecked already.

I don't understand this, are you saying that they stall all the
time - please explain?

No, but the stall, while not violent, is not as wussy as a 150 or
cherokee's stall. It's one of the easiest to spin light airplanes
ever ( it's stall-spin accident rate is ferocious) and it's approach
speed is neccesarily fairly low so as to avoid floating. It's a
wonderful airplane. I've owned three. But it is not an airplane that
suffers fools gladly. And anyone who flies one and shies away form
stalling it because it makes him uncomfortable is a future statistic.
You have to know every way that airplane can enter a spin and what
every type of stall looks and feels like or you are not safe to fly
it.

Bertie

MIght I ask a (possibly) stupid question about stall practice?

If you start at a safe altitude (I know, what's safe...) say 7-9K ft H
above G...what's the problem (given a plane that's relatively docile)?

Folks I used to jump with (ram-air wings) were always twitchy about
stalling their canopies in flight (but did so to land, go figger).
First time I tried it I had a good scare (no instructor seat in a
harness) because the ram-air chute collapses when it stalls giving you
a good sudden 2' drop, then wads up into a semicircular mini-round
chute and you start dropping *backwards* and down at 40-50mph.

Point being, you don't try this at 500' feet in a chute but at 1500'
or above, why not? Same with a plane...altitude is life. If you
don't know what either rig feels like 'on the edges' then you are an
incipient statistic whenever the situation gets just a little snarky.


Oh absolutely, at altitude always. You don't practice stalls low down.
Even if you're sharp enough to recover in ten feet every time, you do
them at altitude.


Bertie