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February 15th 08, 12:02 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
On Feb 15, 9:40 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Michael Ash wrote : Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would need to worry about this limitation. Or climb! But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is. No. The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. 
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February 15th 08, 01:10 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
: On Feb 15, 9:40 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Michael Ash wrote : Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would need to worry about this limitation. Or climb! But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is. No. The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. Well, if by seldom you mean every day, sure. Bertie
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February 15th 08, 01:55 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in : On Feb 15, 9:40 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Michael Ash wrote : Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would need to worry about this limitation. Or climb! But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is. No. The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. Well, if by seldom you mean every day, sure. Bertie Agree, maybe a bit less in USA, but Europe is pretty normal.
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February 15th 08, 02:23 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
Flydive wrote in :
Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in : On Feb 15, 9:40 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Michael Ash wrote : Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would need to worry about this limitation. Or climb! But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is. No. The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. Well, if by seldom you mean every day, sure. Bertie Agree, maybe a bit less in USA, but Europe is pretty normal. All da time in da USA! For many heavies, min clean speed on takeoff is often over 250 knots and they have permission to exceed 250 every time they need to. Mostly this is loooong haul. But you're right. No speed is more often head in Europe and in many countries they just don't care what you do. in fact in Europe, they might get ****ed off with you if you are cleared "high speed" and you don't keep it moving! Screws things up traffic wise. Bertie
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February 15th 08, 02:48 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in : On Feb 15, 9:40 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Michael Ash wrote : Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would need to worry about this limitation. Or climb! But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is. No. The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. Well, if by seldom you mean every day, sure. By "seldom" I mean rarely.
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February 15th 08, 03:03 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in : On Feb 15, 9:40 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Michael Ash wrote : Technically speaking, it is illegal to descend faster than about 25,000fpm (needs to be adjusted based on density, since it's give in terms of indicated airspeed) when below 10,000ft. I doubt too many flights would need to worry about this limitation. Or climb! But in fact this can be waived and very frequently is. No. The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. Well, if by seldom you mean every day, sure. By "seldom" I mean rarely. If by rarely you mean every day, then sure. Bertie
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February 15th 08, 02:49 PM
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Minimum rates of climb/descent for VFR
Steven P. McNicoll writes:
The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. It cannot be waived by ATC, but the FAA can waive it--not something it's likely to do in real time for individual flights, though.
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February 15th 08, 03:02 PM
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Mxsmanic wrote in
: Steven P. McNicoll writes: The 250 KIAS speed limit can be waived but very seldom is. It cannot be waived by ATC, but the FAA can waive it--not something it's likely to do in real time for individual flights, though. Wrong again fjukktad. Bertie
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