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Xcuse me! . . .

Did you also know that CFB Bagotville was also referred to as "BAG Town"?
I have come to know it as such because every service man that I knew in
Canada called it as such. Endearing term, if you wish . . .

As far as I was concerned, I served with the "Air Force" in Canada
(1972-1977) even though WE all wore GREEN. Remember those days?

Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)



"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message
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"Jacques & Laurie" wrote in message
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Yep! Except that this one belongs to the Canadian Air Force. Check out
the markings . . .

Canadian Armed Forces, not "Canadian Air Force."
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/ShowDoc...lse&noCo okie
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Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Jacques & Laurie wrote:


Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)



Yep. My brother inlaw calls it the "Air Force". He is still in.

"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Jacques & Laurie wrote:


Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)



Yep. My brother inlaw calls it the "Air Force". He is still in.

It's an "air force" to be sure, just not the "Air Force".
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Part time soldier, eh? I know of which you speak. 30 Mile snipers, 30th
Field was. What was it you had? 2 batteries? (2 guns), WWII specials at
that . . .

Just teasing . . .

Jacques

"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message
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"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Jacques & Laurie wrote:


Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)



Yep. My brother inlaw calls it the "Air Force". He is still in.

It's an "air force" to be sure, just not the "Air Force".
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

"Jacques & Laurie" wrote in message
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Part time soldier, eh? I know of which you speak. 30 Mile snipers, 30th
Field was. What was it you had? 2 batteries? (2 guns), WWII specials at
that . . .

Just teasing . . .

May 73 to Dec 74, Pri Res; Jan 75 to Jan 96, Reg F; Jan 96 to May 2000, Pri
Res.
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Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Sorry, I really don't know what your getting at.

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Andrew Chaplin wrote:
"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Jacques & Laurie wrote:



Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)



Yep. My brother inlaw calls it the "Air Force". He is still in.


It's an "air force" to be sure, just not the "Air Force".

Never mind, I read more and got your number. 0

That's OK . . .

It's a "Canadian thing . . ." Even I don't understand it any more. Sort of
Regimental Rivalries, ya know . . .

At any rate, it's ancient history now.

I don't live in the "Great White North" any longer anyway . . .

There is no snow and ice where I now live . . . just tropical mayhem for
six months of the year

Jacques
"The Visitor" wrote in message
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Never mind, I read more and got your number. 0

"Jacques & Laurie" wrote in message
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Xcuse me! . . .

Did you also know that CFB Bagotville was also referred to as "BAG Town"? I
have come to know it as such because every service man that I knew in Canada
called it as such. Endearing term, if you wish . . .

As far as I was concerned, I served with the "Air Force" in Canada
(1972-1977) even though WE all wore GREEN. Remember those days?

Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)

I first joined a unit that is widely known in Ottawa and The Royal Regiment of
Canadian Artillery as the "Bytown Gunners," but widespread usage does not in
any way make the name official.

It is fine to use colloquialisms like "Air Force" in places where they will
not confuse. You are, however, posting to an international forum where not
everyone is au fait with the National Defence Re-organization Act, 1967, its
disestablishment of the navy, army and air force as services in Canada, and
its establishment of the single service with "forces" (regular, reserve and
special) as the basis for managing personnel establishments.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

Andrew Chaplin wrote:
"Jacques & Laurie" wrote in message
. ..
Xcuse me! . . .

Did you also know that CFB Bagotville was also referred to as "BAG Town"? I
have come to know it as such because every service man that I knew in Canada
called it as such. Endearing term, if you wish . . .

As far as I was concerned, I served with the "Air Force" in Canada
(1972-1977) even though WE all wore GREEN. Remember those days?

Jacques
(former corporal, CANADIAN AIR FORCE)

I first joined a unit that is widely known in Ottawa and The Royal Regiment of
Canadian Artillery as the "Bytown Gunners," but widespread usage does not in
any way make the name official.

It is fine to use colloquialisms like "Air Force" in places where they will
not confuse. You are, however, posting to an international forum where not
everyone is au fait with the National Defence Re-organization Act, 1967, its
disestablishment of the navy, army and air force as services in Canada, and
its establishment of the single service with "forces" (regular, reserve and
special) as the basis for managing personnel establishments.

I really think that you should loosen up a bit.

It is highly unlikely that anyone, apart from you maybe, has any
problems with those who fly military aircraft in Canada being referred
to as "air force" as a means of identification. Similarly, for those who
serve in ground based, or sea based rôles there is no problem with
references to "army" or "navy" in terms of their particular rôles.

To quote a sombre note from the RCAF website: "The Canadian Forces
Reorganization Act came into effect on 1 February 1968. With that, the
identity of the RCAF, its records and its achievements, were laid to
rest in the pages of Canadian aviation and military history."

The same website, however, also confirms the right to an identity by
stating: "In 1999 the Canadian Air Force celebrated its Diamond Jubilee
after 75 years serving Canadians. With its current unified command
structure, new programs, and new aircraft Canadians can be proud of
their air force and look to the future with much optimism."

Canada's armed services have a proud heritage and have made a
disproportionate contribution to world security over a great many years,
and an act of parliament, passed for whatever reason, seemed an attempt
by some, it has been said, to dilute the spirit that made them great.
It's interesting that this was driven through parliament by Prime
Minister Pierre Trudeau and Defence Minister Paul Hellyer, both of whom
seemed to court controversy. Indeed, the attempt to abandon service
traditions was less than popular in some quarters as was the concept of
one single uniform and rank structure throughout, hence the fact that it
was not fully implemented across the board - personnel of Maritime
Command, for example, maintained their naval rank designations.

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