Awesome sportplane

On Feb 18, 6:31*am, Phil J wrote:
On Feb 16, 7:44*pm, "Mike Isaksen" wrote:



"WingFlaps" *wrote in message ...
I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. (snip...)

I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

What country are you flying in?

Also, nice numbers, but are wings filled with helium?

Min speed: * * *47 kt
Cruise speed: *159 kt
Vne: * * * * * * 173 kt

Climb ratio: 1750 ft/min

Max. takeoff weight: *1080 lbs
Empty weight: * * * * *573 lbs

Engine: ROTAX 912, 912 S or 914, Jabiru

Besides the _very_ light weight and very slippery design, the airplane
uses a variable-pitch prop and double-slotted flaps to achieve those
numbers. *That is one sexy little airplane.

Yes, it makes a mockery of the US sport plane limitations.

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in news:89ce5c71-3a34-4764-a433-
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On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:d4dde7ab-0042-46fd-85fb-
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I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked tiny but I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at 1500'/min
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange compared
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame was very
apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The stick forces were
light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40 degrees) with
almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight overbank tendency appeared
but that may have been related to my coordination being a bit off. A
hard climb near Vx needed a lot of rudder compared to level flight. If
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed at what
100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures are
unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!


I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last year. It
was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let alone so well!
Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it (and even if I could
I don't know that I would want to).


I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay last week
for 1600 bucks!

Bertie

On Feb 18, 9:52*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:89ce5c71-3a34-4764-a433-
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On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:d4dde7ab-0042-46fd-85fb-
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I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked tiny but I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at 1500'/min
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange compared
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame was very
apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The stick forces were
light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40 degrees) with
almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight overbank tendency appeared
but that may have been related to my coordination being a bit off. A
hard climb near Vx needed a lot of rudder compared to level flight. If
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed at what
100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures are
unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!

I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last year. It
was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let alone so well!
Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it (and even if I could
I don't know that I would want to).

I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay last week
for 1600 bucks!

I don't think you should start drooling over a new plane 'til you
finish the old one. Mrs. Bunyip won't tolerate it. But if you want to
fly one come visit me.

Cheers

On Feb 17, 5:07*pm, WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 18, 9:52*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:



WingFlaps wrote in news:89ce5c71-3a34-4764-a433-
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On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:d4dde7ab-0042-46fd-85fb-
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I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked tiny but I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at 1500'/min
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange compared
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame was very
apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The stick forces were
light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40 degrees) with
almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight overbank tendency appeared
but that may have been related to my coordination being a bit off. A
hard climb near Vx needed a lot of rudder compared to level flight. If
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed at what
100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures are
unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!

I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last year. It
was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let alone so well!
Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it (and even if I could
I don't know that I would want to).

I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay last week
for 1600 bucks!

I don't think you should start drooling over a new plane 'til you
finish the old one. Mrs. Bunyip won't tolerate it. But if you want to
fly one come visit me.

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Shweeeeeeet! Where are you WingFlaps? Is the plane yours, or is it
one that you have access to?

Wil

On Feb 18, 11:58*am, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 17, 5:07*pm, WingFlaps wrote:



On Feb 18, 9:52*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

WingFlaps wrote in news:89ce5c71-3a34-4764-a433-
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On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:d4dde7ab-0042-46fd-85fb-
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I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked tiny but I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at 1500'/min
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange compared
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame was very
apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The stick forces were
light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40 degrees) with
almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight overbank tendency appeared
but that may have been related to my coordination being a bit off.. A
hard climb near Vx needed a lot of rudder compared to level flight. If
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed at what
100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures are
unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!

I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last year. It
was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let alone so well!
Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it (and even if I could
I don't know that I would want to).

I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay last week
for 1600 bucks!

I don't think you should start drooling over a new plane 'til you
finish the old one. Mrs. Bunyip won't tolerate it. But if you want to
fly one come visit me.

Cheers- Hide quoted text -

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Shweeeeeeet! *Where are you WingFlaps? *Is the plane yours, or is it
one that you have access to?

I have access to it. You will need to contact me off group for other
details.

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 18, 9:52*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
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I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked tiny
but
I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at
1500'/mi
n
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange
compare
d
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame was
very apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The stick
forces were

light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40 degrees)
with almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight overbank tendency
appeared but that may have been related to my coordination being
a bit off. A hard climb near Vx needed a lot of rudder compared
to level flight. I
f
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed at
what 100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures are
unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!

I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last year.
It was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let alone so
well! Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it (and even
if I could I don't know that I would want to).

I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay
last wee
k
for 1600 bucks!

I don't think you should start drooling over a new plane 'til you
finish the old one. Mrs. Bunyip won't tolerate it. But if you want to
fly one come visit me.


You have a Cri Cri? I'm there.

Bertie

On Feb 18, 3:23*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote :



On Feb 18, 9:52*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
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:

On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
news:d4dde7ab-0042-46fd-85fb-
:

I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked tiny
but
*I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at
1500'/mi
n
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange
compare
d
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame was
very apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The stick
forces were

light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40 degrees)
with almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight overbank tendency
appeared but that may have been related to my coordination being
a bit off. A hard climb near Vx needed a lot of rudder compared
to level flight. I
f
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed at
what 100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures are
unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!

I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last year.
It was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let alone so
well! Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it (and even
if I could I don't know that I would want to).

I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay
last wee
k
for 1600 bucks!

I don't think you should start drooling over a new plane 'til you
finish the old one. Mrs. Bunyip won't tolerate it. But if you want to
fly one come visit me.

You have a Cri Cri? I'm there.

No, I don't have one. I know where one is tho. Single seat plane,
Doubt the owner would let you loose but you never know.

Cheers

WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 18, 3:23*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote
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On Feb 18, 9:52*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
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On Feb 17, 12:51*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in
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:

I recently had a chance to try a Dynaero *MCR01. It looked
tiny but
*I
was able to fit in (I'm over 6' 2") *OK. It climbed out at
1500'/mi
n
and had an airspeed ~140k in level flight. It felt so strange
compare
d
to the C's I've flown. The stiffness of the wings/air frame
was very apparent as was the light weight (it's all CF). The
stick forces were

light and I had only to think about a turn and it
would do it. It seemed very neutral in roll (up to 40
degrees) with almost no rudder needed. Over 40 a slight
overbank tendency appeared but that may have been related to
my coordination being a bit off. A hard climb near Vx needed
a lot of rudder compared to level flight. I
f
you get the chance I'd urge you to check it out -I'm amazed
at what 100HP can achieve in a modern airframe!
I'd like to see what the 4 seat version can do too.

That's Michael Columban's airplane, isn't it? Yes, the figures
are unbeleivable, but he does do the unbeleivable!

I saw a cri-cri on the ground and doing some aerobatics last
year. It was really hard to believe it could fly at all, let
alone so well! Mind, you I would not have been able to get in it
(and even if I could I don't know that I would want to).

I'd love to fly one. A set of drawings just changed hands on ebay
last wee
k
for 1600 bucks!

I don't think you should start drooling over a new plane 'til you
finish the old one. Mrs. Bunyip won't tolerate it. But if you want
to fly one come visit me.

You have a Cri Cri? I'm there.

No, I don't have one. I know where one is tho. Single seat plane,
Doubt the owner would let you loose but you never know.


Well, I wouldn't if it were mine!

Nifty machine.. Someone put a pair of model airplane jets on one..///

Bertie

WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 18, 6:31 am, Phil J wrote:

Besides the _very_ light weight and very slippery design, the airplane
uses a variable-pitch prop and double-slotted flaps to achieve those
numbers. That is one sexy little airplane.

Yes, it makes a mockery of the US sport plane limitations.

Cheers

Not a mockery it just doesn't qualify under the LSA rules.

On Feb 19, 3:36*am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
WingFlaps wrote:
On Feb 18, 6:31 am, Phil J wrote:
Besides the _very_ light weight and very slippery design, the airplane
uses a variable-pitch prop and double-slotted flaps to achieve those
numbers. *That is one sexy little airplane.

Yes, it makes a mockery of the US sport plane limitations.


Not a mockery it just doesn't qualify under the LSA rules.

Then may I suggest those rules are too restrictive? Why have an upper
speed limit when you are already limited on power? The power, Vso and
MAUW alone should be enough. IMHO if better design can give both the
desired low stall speed and high speed perf. it should be encouraged,
not prevented by restrictive legislation. I can't help wonder if one
purpose of that legislation is to protect established, but inferior,
designs.

Cheers