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Old February 20th 08, 05:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Kuykendall
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Default Experimental LSA gliders?

On Feb 18, 3:25*pm, wrote:
...the FAA requires kits to have 51% completed by the owner...


No, that's not quite true.

The FAA rules require that the "major portion" of the aircraft be
constructed for the purposes of recreation and education. They don't
care whether it was the owner or another person, or another person's
hairdresser's dog. Just so long as it was built for fun and learning
and not for money.

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Old February 20th 08, 11:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
ventus2
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Default Experimental LSA gliders?

Thats where we have a definite advantage in Australia.
There is no speed limit for LSA and we only have to have a propeller (for
powered LSA). It does not have to be fixed pitch.
We fought hard for that and in the end are happy we managed to get that out
of the regulator.

As Marc rightly points out, LSA is a definite advantage for manufacturer's
to circumvent the multi million dollar type certification process. It does
not do much for gliders in my opinion if you have to prove that you have a
VNE of 120kts.
The nice bit about it is the 600kg which could make an 18m or strandard ship
go quite nicely. Who is going to check your speed in the air?

I don't envy the US system and am happy that our information re regulatory
material is readily accesible.
Admittedly, there is not much of an uptake in Aus for LSA, other than Jabiru
and a few imports, as our normal regs (for ultralights) are superior to the
LSA offering, even if the weight limit has not reached 600kg as yet. It will
this year though.
No one has taken up the LSA offering under gliding here as yet.

Chris


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Old February 20th 08, 02:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Experimental LSA gliders?

The FAA rules require that the "major portion" of the aircraft be
constructed for the purposes of recreation and education. They don't
care whether it was the owner or another person, or another person's
hairdresser's dog. Just so long as it was built for fun and learning
and not for money.


I left that out but I don't think the FAA intended to include
operations like Lancair or Velocity. If you have the money you just
show up and within two weeks you construct the airframe, hang the
engine, install instruments and are ready to fly away in a
pressurized, turbine aircraft at 350 kts. The builder may have a hand
in the "majority" during that time but the factory is basically being
paid to do the majority of construction. The factory is in the
business of building airplanes and thats why the FAA is taking another
look at approved kits and programs. They don't want it to get to a
point where the factory has you install a tire and say you built the
entire thing.
 




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