"Outlandings" discussion

Personally, a "landout" is a field landing, airports are maintained
runways usually intended for public use (though you can have private
airports), airstrip usually means a private grass or dirt strip that may
or may not be well maintained (but you can have public airstrips, like
state emergency fields). Based on my definitions, your friends did not
land at "airports" (the "port" part suggests to me that planes come and
go with some regularity and dependability), but might have qualified for
"landout" status from your description of the fields.

If you land at a towered airport with a 7000 foot long, 100 foot wide
runway, it is definitely NOT a landout! Call it a "landaway", say you
"didn't make it back", but save "landout" for when you have to be picked
out of a farmers field!

Oh yeah? I bet if you landed at ATL (or Edwards AFB) in a glider, it
would be just as exciting as any "field landing"!

To me, any landing that isn't where you wanted to land before takeoff
is a landout. It could (and usually is, in modern glass) be at an
airfield, or it could be an off field landing in a meadow. The
criteria is that I was forced to land by the weather (or other
external factors), not at my predetermined destination.

In southern Illinois where I've been flying lately, there are nice
paved or grass, public or private airfields/airstrips everywhere - it
just doesn't make sense to risk damage by not using them if at all
possible. And a marginal final glide into a private airstrip 5 miles
short of home is a landout!

In Arizona, where I've done a bit of XC, you are foolish to not
landout on an airfield or ranch strip - there often isn't any
alternative. An off field landing in the desert is often accompanied
by one very broken glider...

Seems childish to insist that you have to pass up smarter options in
order to claim a landout! And let's face it, it's an ego thing - "if
you aren't landing out, you aren't trying", etc...

Kirk
66

What's the "usual" cost to the pilot for a retrieval from an land out?

I know it depends on lots of things.

But let's say he lands at an airfield and opts for the trailer rather
than the towplane. Does the pilot owe full dinner? Light hors
d'oeuvres? One beer? A six pack? A promise to wax the retrieval
person's wings? If only one person is needed, but more come, does the
pilot have to "pay" the entire posse?

Now, if the pilot lands out in a pasture out in the boonies and the
gate is locked and nobody has a "master key" (aka bolt cutters) and
several people have to lift the parts over the fence, does the pilot
pay the whole retrieval crew? What "fee?"

Curious (and bored)

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

On Feb 22, 1:03 am, rlovinggood wrote:
What's the "usual" cost to the pilot for a retrieval from an land out?

I know it depends on lots of things.

But let's say he lands at an airfield and opts for the trailer rather
than the towplane. Does the pilot owe full dinner? Light hors
d'oeuvres? One beer? A six pack? A promise to wax the retrieval
person's wings? If only one person is needed, but more come, does the
pilot have to "pay" the entire posse?

Now, if the pilot lands out in a pasture out in the boonies and the
gate is locked and nobody has a "master key" (aka bolt cutters) and
several people have to lift the parts over the fence, does the pilot
pay the whole retrieval crew? What "fee?"

Curious (and bored)

Surely that's simple: you "pay" whatever is necessary to ensure they
will come and retrieve you next time.

On Feb 22, 8:11*am, Tom Gardner wrote:
On Feb 22, 1:03 am, rlovinggood wrote:





What's the "usual" cost to the pilot for a retrieval from an land out?

I know it depends on lots of things.

But let's say he lands at an airfield and opts for the trailer rather
than the towplane. *Does the pilot owe full dinner? *Light hors
d'oeuvres? *One beer? *A six pack? *A promise to wax the retrieval
person's wings? *If only one person is needed, but more come, does the
pilot have to "pay" the entire posse?

Now, if the pilot lands out in a pasture out in the boonies and the
gate is locked and nobody has a "master key" (aka bolt cutters) and
several people have to lift the parts over the fence, does the pilot
pay the whole retrieval crew? *What "fee?"

Curious (and bored)

Surely that's simple: you "pay" whatever is necessary to ensure they
will come and retrieve you next time.- Hide quoted text -

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I got low in my motorglider, put the engine out and tryed to turn it
on, but nothing happened...
glided for about 10 km, found a pasture with many cows (aux vaches, as
french say)1 - 2 feet high grass, landed ok but ran over an invisible
drainage ditch which bent one of the wheels.As the trailer wouldn't go
into the pasture, the glider had to be disassembled and towed by the
farmer's pickup by 2 km. We were served cokes and pizza at the owners
house.

If want to check the clip, go to

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ylrc6W0iZ3c

Sergio