Failed Aviation Administration strikes again

"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a
flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen
and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including
an empty oxygen tank, a relative said.

I'd say you're really grasping at straws trying to blame this one on the
FAA.

Steve Foley wrote:
"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a
flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen
and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including
an empty oxygen tank, a relative said.

I'd say you're really grasping at straws trying to blame this one on the
FAA.



Reduced and pencil whipped Federal safety inspections ring a
bell?

"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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Steve Foley wrote:
"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a
flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen
and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including
an empty oxygen tank, a relative said.

I'd say you're really grasping at straws trying to blame this one on the
FAA.



Reduced and pencil whipped Federal safety inspections ring a
bell?

I must have missed the class where they said the FAA is responsible for
inspecting the medical condition of passengers.

Steve Foley wrote:
"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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Steve Foley wrote:
"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a
flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen
and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including
an empty oxygen tank, a relative said.
I'd say you're really grasping at straws trying to blame this one on the
FAA.


Reduced and pencil whipped Federal safety inspections ring a
bell?

I must have missed the class where they said the FAA is responsible for
inspecting the medical condition of passengers.



Oxygen tanks and required safety equipment on commercial
airlines is the responsibility of FAA inspectors and the
airlines.

I was referring to required safety EQUIPMENT not medical
diagnosis. American Airlines is claiming their equipment
worked fine. Now the finger pointing begins.

Every time someone dies on an aircraft the airlines blame
the FAA and the FAA blames the airlines. All while people
die. Sad state of affairs.

"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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Every time someone dies on an aircraft the airlines blame
the FAA and the FAA blames the airlines. All while people
die. Sad state of affairs.

I haven't seen any blame placed on the FAA, except your racist diatribe.

"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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Steve Foley wrote:
"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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Steve Foley wrote:
"The3rdRail" wrote in message
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NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a
flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen
and then tried to help her with faulty equipment, including
an empty oxygen tank, a relative said.
I'd say you're really grasping at straws trying to blame this one on
the
FAA.


Reduced and pencil whipped Federal safety inspections ring a
bell?

I must have missed the class where they said the FAA is responsible for
inspecting the medical condition of passengers.



Oxygen tanks and required safety equipment on commercial airlines is the
responsibility of FAA inspectors and the airlines.

I was referring to required safety EQUIPMENT not medical diagnosis.
American Airlines is claiming their equipment worked fine. Now the finger
pointing begins.

This flight carried 12 medical oxygen bottles onboard. Are you saying all
12 were empty or faulty? Are saying the crewmember did not know how to
operate the oxygen bottle? Have you ever flown on an airliner?

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*H. Allen Smith*
WACO - We are all here, because we are not all there.

The3rdRail wrote:
NEW YORK — An American Airlines passenger died after a
flight attendant told her he couldn't give her any oxygen
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Every time someone dies on an aircraft the airlines blame
the FAA and the FAA blames the airlines. All while people
die. Sad state of affairs.

Sadly, 02 prolly wouldn't have made a difference at all.
On the surface ( veerrry surface) sounds like a pulmonary embolism. Folks
predisposed gets 'em after long hours sitting. Which happens on airplanes, I
understand.

So... FAA causes PE.


OMG... how could we miss the connection?!!!

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In article 8053c7131581b@uwe, Kloudy via AviationKB.com u33403@uwe wrote:
The3rdRail wrote:

Sadly, 02 prolly wouldn't have made a difference at all.
On the surface ( veerrry surface) sounds like a pulmonary embolism. Folks
predisposed gets 'em after long hours sitting. Which happens on airplanes, I
understand.

Still, I kinda wish AA could have arranged to have just one working O2 bottle
on their plane.

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http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/

Edward A. Falk wrote:


Still, I kinda wish AA could have arranged to have just one working O2 bottle
on their plane.

We really don't know if they didn't.
Patient's family says no, AA says yes.
Many AEDs will not work if sufficient signal cannot be acquired for proper
shock eval.
Doesn't mean the equipment failed.

In my experience, in stressful situations when a loved one in is distress the
realities of an emergent medical event and relationships of cause and effect
can get extremely confused by the the lay members present. It can be an
impediment to care teams and can adversely color the patient's and family's
perceptions of diagnosis and/or proposed treatment plans.

I am sorry the woman died and proper facilities were not immediately
available to accurately diagnose and treat her. Whether or not O2 was
available is most likely irrelevant.
What she needed was an ER.

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