EU as joke (modified)

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:33:19 GMT, Juvat wrote:


I agree that Rumsfeld's previous goodwill visit to Hussein had no
bearing on current events...but I use it to suggest that the current
anger by you and other americans toward our european friends can just
as easily change.

"European friends"? That would be the UK and Poland. The rest are
hardly "friends"

Al Minyard

Alan Minyard wrote in
:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:33:19 GMT, Juvat
wrote:


I agree that Rumsfeld's previous goodwill visit to Hussein had
no bearing on current events...but I use it to suggest that the
current anger by you and other americans toward our european
friends can just as easily change.

"European friends"? That would be the UK and Poland. The rest
are hardly "friends"

Al Minyard

Just a reminder.


http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02040207.htm

"Rumsfeld Thanks Norway for "Wonderful" Anti-terror Support

In response to a question, Devold revealed that Norway
has offered F-16 fighter jets for Operation Enduring
Freedom, and it "plans to be able to go together with
Denmark and Netherlands with a deployment of F-16s if
we are needed later on this year."



http://www.iwar.org.uk/news-archive/2003/08-11.htm

NATO took over command Monday of the International Security
Assistance Force, known by its acronym ISAF, following a
year-and-a-half in which different nations rotated into and
out of leadership.

The takeover marks NATO's first operation outside Europe in
its 54-year history, and underscores the alliance's shift from
its original Cold War role to a new focus on international
terrorism.

[..]



Regards...

"European friends"? That would be the UK and Poland. The rest
are hardly "friends"

Al Minyard

Just a reminder.

Netherlands, Turkey, Italy, Spain , Denmark, Most all of the eastern European
countries, Norway, and another I have forgotten at this moment, are helping to.
Yes, they are good friends too. A lot more than just UK and Poland have
helped in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even France helped with CAS in Afghanistan, which is a case of our interests
being common, as opposed to different in the case of Iraq.


Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

On 08 Nov 2003 04:04:38 GMT, 362436 (Ron) wrote:

"European friends"? That would be the UK and Poland. The rest
are hardly "friends"

Al Minyard

Just a reminder.

Netherlands, Turkey, Italy, Spain , Denmark, Most all of the eastern European
countries, Norway, and another I have forgotten at this moment, are helping to.
Yes, they are good friends too. A lot more than just UK and Poland have
helped in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even France helped with CAS in Afghanistan, which is a case of our interests
being common, as opposed to different in the case of Iraq.


Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

Turkey blocked our forces from transiting to Iraq, causing the deaths of US
troops. Not much of a "friend" there. The Netherlands, as part of the EU, has
condemned US actions in Iraq, not much of a "friend" there. Spain? Denmark?
Funny, I do not seem to recall any of their boots on the ground.

Al Minyard

On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 03:36:31 GMT, "Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote:

Alan Minyard wrote in
:
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:33:19 GMT, Juvat
wrote:


I agree that Rumsfeld's previous goodwill visit to Hussein had
no bearing on current events...but I use it to suggest that the
current anger by you and other americans toward our european
friends can just as easily change.

"European friends"? That would be the UK and Poland. The rest
are hardly "friends"

Al Minyard

Just a reminder.


http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02040207.htm

"Rumsfeld Thanks Norway for "Wonderful" Anti-terror Support

In response to a question, Devold revealed that Norway
has offered F-16 fighter jets for Operation Enduring
Freedom, and it "plans to be able to go together with
Denmark and Netherlands with a deployment of F-16s if
we are needed later on this year."



http://www.iwar.org.uk/news-archive/2003/08-11.htm

NATO took over command Monday of the International Security
Assistance Force, known by its acronym ISAF, following a
year-and-a-half in which different nations rotated into and
out of leadership.

The takeover marks NATO's first operation outside Europe in
its 54-year history, and underscores the alliance's shift from
its original Cold War role to a new focus on international
terrorism.

[..]



Regards...

Latter on this year?? Oh, you mean after there is no need for them,
and no threat to them.

What a joke.

Al Minyard

Alan Minyard wrote in
:
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 03:36:31 GMT, "Bjørnar Bolsøy"
wrote:

http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/terror/02040207.htm

"Rumsfeld Thanks Norway for "Wonderful" Anti-terror Support

In response to a question, Devold revealed that Norway
has offered F-16 fighter jets for Operation Enduring
Freedom, and it "plans to be able to go together with
Denmark and Netherlands with a deployment of F-16s if
we are needed later on this year."

[..]


Latter on this year??

No, last year as you might notice. The operation ended in
april this year. Our 6 F-16s flew 488 missions and spent
3000hrs in the air. We even dropped bombs, which marks
the first time we've ever engaged in air combat since WW2.

Looking back at 5o years of a purely defensive policy it
was a very important milestone for us to even send
weaponsystems to an offensive campaign in the first place,
one which naturally caused a heavy national debate.


Oh, you mean after there is no need for
them, and no threat to them.

The way it works is that we offer our support, usually of
defensive form, to our allies. Then we -migth- be put into
the plan and called when we are needed.

In this case the US accepted and we were later called in
as part of the EPAF (European Participating Air Forces).




Regards...