The Differences Between PPLicensing And Learning

"Deadstick" wrote in message
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Additionally, the student can experience things in the simulator that
he/she can't or shouldn't do in the actual aircraft. The PC simulator
is, in my opinion, a valuable tool if used correctly.

Therein lies the problem. How does a student know if he's using the tool
correctly?

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Deadstick" wrote in message
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Additionally, the student can experience things in the simulator that
he/she can't or shouldn't do in the actual aircraft. The PC simulator
is, in my opinion, a valuable tool if used correctly.

Therein lies the problem. How does a student know if he's using the tool
correctly?

-c


You answered your own question...if he's a student, he's taking instruction.
Otherwise he's just a user or tinkerer.

--
BobF.
Lincoln actually got it right but was way ahead of his time when he said,
"You can have some of you computer working all of the time and all of your
computer working some of the time but..." It was he that said that, wasn't
it?

Took the words right out of my mouth. I can see a lot of time devoted to
un-learning if everyone followed the OP's method.

Bob Gardner

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Deadstick" wrote in message
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Additionally, the student can experience things in the simulator that
he/she can't or shouldn't do in the actual aircraft. The PC simulator
is, in my opinion, a valuable tool if used correctly.

Therein lies the problem. How does a student know if he's using the tool
correctly?

-c

"Bob Gardner" wrote:
Took the words right out of my mouth. I can see a lot of time devoted
to un-learning if everyone followed the OP's method.

Hmmm. There are now several books that attempt to explain how to make best
use of a tool like MS Flight Simulator. Would anyone argue that the
prescriptions in those books wont help because it's a lost cause ("no
substitute for being in a real cockpit")?

Next thing you know, people will be claiming that no book can help guide
you in radio communications ("no substitute for using a real radio"), so
buying and reading such books is a waste money and time. *COUGH*


Bob Gardner

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Deadstick" wrote in message

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Additionally, the student can experience things in the simulator
that he/she can't or shouldn't do in the actual aircraft. The PC
simulator is, in my opinion, a valuable tool if used correctly.

Therein lies the problem. How does a student know if he's using the
tool correctly?

-c

Jim Logajan wrote:
"Bob Gardner" wrote:
Took the words right out of my mouth. I can see a lot of time devoted
to un-learning if everyone followed the OP's method.

Hmmm. There are now several books that attempt to explain how to make best
use of a tool like MS Flight Simulator. Would anyone argue that the
prescriptions in those books wont help because it's a lost cause ("no
substitute for being in a real cockpit")?

Next thing you know, people will be claiming that no book can help guide
you in radio communications ("no substitute for using a real radio"), so
buying and reading such books is a waste money and time. *COUGH*

Bob Gardner

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Deadstick" wrote in message

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Additionally, the student can experience things in the simulator
that he/she can't or shouldn't do in the actual aircraft. The PC
simulator is, in my opinion, a valuable tool if used correctly.
Therein lies the problem. How does a student know if he's using the
tool correctly?

-c



Flying is one thing, radio communications are quite another. The two can
not be equated in an instructional context.

--
Dudley Henriques

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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"Bob Gardner" wrote:
Took the words right out of my mouth. I can see a lot of time devoted
to un-learning if everyone followed the OP's method.

Hmmm. There are now several books that attempt to explain how to make best
use of a tool like MS Flight Simulator. Would anyone argue that the
prescriptions in those books wont help because it's a lost cause ("no
substitute for being in a real cockpit")?

Next thing you know, people will be claiming that no book can help guide
you in radio communications ("no substitute for using a real radio"), so
buying and reading such books is a waste money and time. *COUGH*

Well, there are significant differences:

1) It's hard to learn bad flying habits from a good book (forgetting to
report your position, lean the mixture, contact ATC or check the freq of the
VOR you're tracking, etc. You can "shoot approaches" in Flight Sim without
even looking at an approach plate.)

B) Sectionals don't put a little airplane symbol on themselves to show your
position, course and altitude like MSFS maps do

III) Textbooks instruct. PC simulators are fundamentally games (unless
somebody's really practicing to fly a B777 or the Wright Flyer.)

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:07:40 -0800, Bob Gardner wrote:

I can see a lot of time devoted to
un-learning if everyone followed the OP's method.

Bob Gardner

Cruel shoe, Bob They weren't cast in concrete, but to be sure, here is
what I typed relevant to your comment (which may have only been aimed at
the sim time).

For a start, I won't begin my first instruction until I can do the
following:

Pass all tests with a 95% minimum
Handle with ease all traffic control and similar commo
Dissect the anatomy of my training aircraft
Understand what and how the instrumentation works (shortcomings included)
Own all the fundamentally necessary flight gear (i.e carry-ons in flight
bag or on person)
Obtain hours in flight simulation
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