Way off topic, but it has do to with the French

The list of countries with people that "sat on their hands whilst
under the yoke of the most immoral regime in modern history" includes
Poland, Denmark, Norway, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg,
Yugoslavia, and Greece.


Somebody get their fkucking history straight and get Greece off this dip
**** list.
G, from Greece.

Somebody get their fkucking history straight and get Greece off this dip
**** list.
G, from Greece.

Indeed. The Greeks, while no match for the Germans, managed to thoroughly
humiliate the Italians before falling under Axis occupation. For a brief
(if not entirely impartial) history of Greece in WWII, see:

http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:_yGyj.5815$TT4.1156@attbi_s22:

Somebody get their fkucking history straight and get Greece off this
dip **** list.
G, from Greece.

Indeed. The Greeks, while no match for the Germans, managed to
thoroughly humiliate the Italians before falling under Axis
occupation. For a brief (if not entirely impartial) history of
Greece in WWII, see:

http://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/worldwarII.htm

Slurp


Bertie

On 2008-03-02, Jay Honeck wrote:
Indeed. The Greeks, while no match for the Germans, managed to thoroughly
humiliate the Italians before falling under Axis occupation. For a brief
(if not entirely impartial) history of Greece in WWII, see:

The Italians weren't entirely hard to humiliate in WWII - the tiny
island of Malta humiliated the might of the Italian air force with three
Fairey Swordfish.

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

The Italians weren't entirely hard to humiliate in WWII - the tiny
island of Malta humiliated the might of the Italian air force with three
Fairey Swordfish.

True, the Italians were pathetically clumsy in WWII. It's interesting to
note that despite this performance there are few in America who make
"Italian jokes" the way we poke fun at the French.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mar 5, 10:15 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
The Italians weren't entirely hard to humiliate in WWII - the tiny
island of Malta humiliated the might of the Italian air force with three
Fairey Swordfish.

True, the Italians were pathetically clumsy in WWII. It's interesting to
note that despite this performance there are few in America who make
"Italian jokes" the way we poke fun at the French.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Which part of "America?" Iowa? Iowa City? Where?

Those of us from New York (that's that big city on the East Coast
that's still part of America) have heard jokes made about and told on
every race, creed, color, and shape of mankind.

It's how you knew you'd arrived.


Dan

Which part of "America?" Iowa? Iowa City? Where?

Those of us from New York (that's that big city on the East Coast
that's still part of America) have heard jokes made about and told on
every race, creed, color, and shape of mankind.

Allow me to rephrase that, please. Although there are jokes about EVERY
ethnic group, the types of jokes we hear about Italians (and just about
everyone else) are far different in tone from those told about the French.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Dan" wrote in message
...
On Mar 5, 10:15 am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
The Italians weren't entirely hard to humiliate in WWII - the tiny
island of Malta humiliated the might of the Italian air force with
three
Fairey Swordfish.

True, the Italians were pathetically clumsy in WWII. It's interesting
to
note that despite this performance there are few in America who make
"Italian jokes" the way we poke fun at the French.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Which part of "America?" Iowa? Iowa City? Where?

Those of us from New York (that's that big city on the East Coast
that's still part of America) have heard jokes made about and told on
every race, creed, color, and shape of mankind.

It's how you knew you'd arrived.


Dan

Jay Honeck wrote:
The Italians weren't entirely hard to humiliate in WWII - the tiny
island of Malta humiliated the might of the Italian air force with three
Fairey Swordfish.

True, the Italians were pathetically clumsy in WWII. It's interesting
to note that despite this performance there are few in America who make
"Italian jokes" the way we poke fun at the French.

As a second generation Italian-American on my fathers side I've heard
plenty. But the reason you don't hear as many is because the Italians
don't think they are great warriors.

The best isn't really a joke though. When, during the first Persian Gulf
War, a bunch of Iraqis supposedly surrendered to an Italian news crew
the joke was that they had taken more POWs than the entire Italian Army
during WWII.

On Mar 5, 10:39 am, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:

As a second generation Italian-American on my fathers side I've heard
plenty. But the reason you don't hear as many is because the Italians
don't think they are great warriors.

The best isn't really a joke though. When, during the first Persian Gulf
War, a bunch of Iraqis supposedly surrendered to an Italian news crew
the joke was that they had taken more POWs than the entire Italian Army
during WWII.

Keep in mind, Jay has a minor in History, but...

One reason the Italians had no great desire for battle wasn't a
particular lack of courage or combativeness -- Italians can be as
pusillanimous as any people.

The fact was the "Italian nation" was still in formation at the time
of WW2. The federation of City States that were united only after
Napoleon (A Frenchman, no less) completely reset the political
organization of the peninsula.

Italian nationalists pushed for unification all through the 19th
century, but what appeal this had for the common Italian is lost. All
we have are individual recollections, and those Immigrant Italians I
have known are very clear that they are from Naples or Sicily or
Calabria.

While Mussolini had grand fascist visions of restoration of the Roman
Empire, apparently -- in most cases -- his enlistees did not share his
grand vision, and fought with less than alacrity.

This does not mean Italians are "Unsuited for war." All men (in the
generic sense) are unsuited for war. What makes them suited is some
combination of impulse, desire, conviction, training, and purpose.

Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Dan

Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"