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Old March 4th 08, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
Robert M. Gary
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On Mar 4, 12:10*pm, Dallas wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:57:26 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
*Boeing recommend slipping from
about 200 feet down


So Bertie, will this pilot, "Oliver A.", generally be seen in the pilot
community as having screwed up?


CNN is reporting that she is onlly 24 years old. Maybe she doesn't
have a lot of experience in cross wind landings??

-Robert
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Old March 4th 08, 11:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
Jim Stewart
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
On Mar 4, 12:10 pm, Dallas wrote:
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:57:26 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Boeing recommend slipping from
about 200 feet down

So Bertie, will this pilot, "Oliver A.", generally be seen in the pilot
community as having screwed up?


CNN is reporting that she is onlly 24 years old. Maybe she doesn't
have a lot of experience in cross wind landings??


She got several years worth that day...
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Old March 5th 08, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:35:07 -0800 (PST), Robert M. Gary wrote:

CNN is reporting that she is onlly 24 years old.


A chick named "Oliver"?

:-/

--
Dallas
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Old March 5th 08, 06:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
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Dallas schrieb:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:35:07 -0800 (PST), Robert M. Gary wrote:

CNN is reporting that she is onlly 24 years old.


A chick named "Oliver"?

:-/

Of course not, Oliver A. (39) was captain on that flight and Maxi J. (24
and female) was FO

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...539373,00.html

Christian
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Old March 6th 08, 05:47 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
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In article ,
says...


Dallas schrieb:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:35:07 -0800 (PST), Robert M. Gary wrote:

CNN is reporting that she is onlly 24 years old.


A chick named "Oliver"?

:-/

Of course not, Oliver A. (39) was captain on that flight and Maxi J. (24
and female) was FO

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...539373,00.html

Christian



Maxi J. - This just gets better and better!
And the "experienced" 36-year-old captain gives her her "first landing" in
the middle of a cyclone - saving the day just as the winglet gets scraped
off! I thought it was cute when Karen Black flew the 747, but those
screenwriters wouldn't have dreamed of this . . .

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Old March 6th 08, 02:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
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On 6 Mar, 05:47, Airbus wrote:
In article ,
says...







Dallas schrieb:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:35:07 -0800 (PST), Robert M. Gary wrote:


CNN is reporting that she is onlly 24 years old.


A chick named "Oliver"?


:-/


Of course not, Oliver A. (39) was captain on that flight and Maxi J. (24
and female) was FO


http://www.spiegel.de/international/...539373,00.html


Christian


Maxi J. *- *This just gets better and better!
And the "experienced" 36-year-old captain gives her her "first landing" in
the middle of a cyclone - saving the day just as the winglet gets scraped
off! I thought it was cute when Karen Black flew the 747, but those
screenwriters wouldn't have dreamed of this . . .- Hide quoted text -



Well, they gotta learn somehow! I was not a million miles from there
around the same time with a neophyte FO and I let him land it. The x-
wind componenet wasn't so much and I briefed him at length on method
during the approach, but I don't think I'd have let him land with that
much x-wind.

BTW, these things are able to be slipped in a crosswind.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/969255...swind_landing/



Bertie
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Old March 6th 08, 02:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
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In article
,
says...


Well, they gotta learn somehow!



FO's, or screenwriters??

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Old March 7th 08, 10:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
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Airbus wrote in :

In article
,
says...


Well, they gotta learn somehow!



FO's, or screenwriters??



FO's.


Bertie
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Old March 6th 08, 11:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
Peter Clark
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:05:57 -0800 (PST), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


Well, they gotta learn somehow! I was not a million miles from there
around the same time with a neophyte FO and I let him land it. The x-
wind componenet wasn't so much and I briefed him at length on method
during the approach, but I don't think I'd have let him land with that
much x-wind.

BTW, these things are able to be slipped in a crosswind.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/969255...swind_landing/


What kind of bank angle do you need to have before you start worrying
about striking a pod in one of these? Isn't the 73 a significant
number less?
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Old March 7th 08, 10:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.ifr
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Peter Clark wrote in
:

On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:05:57 -0800 (PST), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


Well, they gotta learn somehow! I was not a million miles from there
around the same time with a neophyte FO and I let him land it. The x-
wind componenet wasn't so much and I briefed him at length on method
during the approach, but I don't think I'd have let him land with that
much x-wind.

BTW, these things are able to be slipped in a crosswind.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/969255...swind_landing/


What kind of bank angle do you need to have before you start worrying
about striking a pod in one of these? Isn't the 73 a significant
number less?


Depends on the airplane, obviously, but you have enough on most airplanes
bar the old four engined ones and the MD80 series to slip enough st the
demonstrated limit to have plenty of room. I've landed 737s in 30 knots (
their demonstrated limit) and had room. Our airline had a tip strike very
like that in significantly less wind, though. Let's just say it wasnt a
well flown landing...

Bertie
 




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