Way off topic, but it has do to with the French

On Mar 5, 11:13*am, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Provide that, and you can lead Frenchmen to Moscow.

Exactly. *And it is precisely because the French have fallen so far that
they are now thought of so poorly.

Combine that with their inexplicable arrogance in the face of irrelevance,
and you have comic fodder.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I've also heard some pretty good Iowa jokes. Here's a sampling:

Q: What's considered a solid hour's reading in Iowa?

A: The back of a cereal box.


Did you hear that Ford is recalling all vehicles sold in Iowa? They
have to change the dimmer switch back to the floor like it used to be
due to all the Iowans losing control of their cars when their foot
gets caught in the steering wheel.


Q: Why do they bring a bag of manure to a wedding in Iowa?

A: It keeps the flies off the bride!

I'm not sure why people make fun of Iowa that way, but I am sure there
must be very good reasons Iowans deserve it. Just like with the
French!

Phil

I'm not sure why people make fun of Iowa that way, but I am sure there
must be very good reasons Iowans deserve it. Just like with the
French!

Pretty good! But you forgot this one:

What does "IOWA" stand for?

Idiots
Out
Walking
Around

You see, unlike the French (and several folks in this thread), I have
something called "a sense of humor". I suggest you guys find one -- it
makes the world much more fun!

Besides, I'm not from Iowa...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mar 5, 4:36*pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
I'm not sure why people make fun of Iowa that way, but I am sure there
must be very good reasons Iowans deserve it. *Just like with the
French!

Pretty good! *But you forgot this one:

What does "IOWA" stand for?

Idiots
Out
Walking
Around


I didn't forget it. I just didn't think it was very funny.

You see, unlike the French (and several folks in this thread), I have
something called "a sense of humor". * I suggest you guys find one -- it
makes the world much more fun!

Besides, I'm not from Iowa...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Oh, so you are just joking when you say the French are arrogant,
irrelevant, etc. Is that the sense of humor we should adopt?

I like a good joke, and I found the original post pretty clever. But
I only take it as a joke, and I don't take the underlying stereotypes
seriously. Your posts attempt to show why the jokes and stereotypes
are actually justified. I didn't find the original joke offensive,
but your posts I definitely find offensive.

Phil

I like a good joke, and I found the original post pretty clever. But
I only take it as a joke, and I don't take the underlying stereotypes
seriously. Your posts attempt to show why the jokes and stereotypes
are actually justified. I didn't find the original joke offensive,
but your posts I definitely find offensive.

Your hypersensitivity aside, I'm trying to explain to you WHY the French are
the butt of jokes in America. Whether you choose to listen or not is
irrelevant, and we haven't even begun to discuss whether I believe the jokes
are justified.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
I like a good joke, and I found the original post pretty clever. But
I only take it as a joke, and I don't take the underlying stereotypes
seriously. Your posts attempt to show why the jokes and stereotypes
are actually justified. I didn't find the original joke offensive,
but your posts I definitely find offensive.

Your hypersensitivity aside, I'm trying to explain to you WHY the
French are the butt of jokes in America.

But they aren't the butt of jokes in America. At least not where I live.

In fact I seem to recall something about an attempt to rename "french
fries" to "freedom fries" that made the U.S. the butt of jokes around the
world. (Oh yeah - the work of Republican Walter Jones of NC. Eventually
became a critic of the Iraq war and said he wished the "fries" episode had
never happened.)

On 2008-03-06, Jim Logajan wrote:
Your hypersensitivity aside, I'm trying to explain to you WHY the
French are the butt of jokes in America.
But they aren't the butt of jokes in America. At least not where I live.

They have been both places I've lived.
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http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
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Your hypersensitivity aside, I'm trying to explain to you WHY the
French are the butt of jokes in America.
But they aren't the butt of jokes in America. At least not where I live.

They have been both places I've lived.

I've lived in two states (Side note for Martin: Both states are bigger than
most European countries), and many different cities. I've worked in
Chicago, Milwaukee, Racine, Kenosha, Iowa City, Cedar Rapids. I've worked
for and with the New York Times, the Racine Journal Times, the Chicago
Tribune, and the Cedar Rapids Gazette.

In every locale, in every position, the French are AT BEST chuckled at.
Maybe it's a Midwestern thing, maybe it's a generational thing -- I don't
know -- but it's pretty much universal, and was especially prevalent with my
dad's (WWII) generation.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Mar 5, 10:03*pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
I like a good joke, and I found the original post pretty clever. *But
I only take it as a joke, and I don't take the underlying stereotypes
seriously. * Your posts attempt to show why the jokes and stereotypes
are actually justified. *I didn't find the original joke offensive,
but your posts I definitely find offensive.

Your hypersensitivity aside, I'm trying to explain to you WHY the French are
the butt of jokes in America. *Whether you choose to listen or not is
irrelevant, and we haven't even begun to discuss whether I believe the jokes
are justified.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

It doesn't require hypersensitivity when someone is so glaringly
offensive. Nearly everyone on this thread has been trying to point
out to you that the French are not really different (better or worse)
than any other nationality on this planet, but no one can get through
to you. You are the one choosing not to listen, Jay.

Phil

It doesn't require hypersensitivity when someone is so glaringly
offensive. Nearly everyone on this thread has been trying to point
out to you that the French are not really different (better or worse)
than any other nationality on this planet, but no one can get through
to you. You are the one choosing not to listen, Jay.

No, Phil -- you're just not grasping the content of the conversation, which
is a dispassionate analysis of *why* the French are the butt of so many
jokes in America. Apparently you think that to discuss this phenomenon is
to somehow agree with it -- which is silly and just plain wrong.

As an aside, it is this national inability to discuss things dispassionately
that has lead to the near-complete polarization of the American political
climate. Almost no topic can be discussed or analyzed without *someone*
making it into a personal affront -- and then dialogue just becomes noisy
shouting with no compromise.

There is an interesting analysis of this phenomenon in Newsweek this week
WRT the passing of William F. Buckley. In his hey-day, Buckley would
invite people from all ends of the social and political spectrum to his show
(and into his home) to politely and intellectually discuss all manner of
topics -- and they would actually be able to debate the issues without
descending into chaos, the way the talk shows do today. It was so
incredibly civilized, and stands in stark contrast to the way EVERYTHING is
taken personally nowadays.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:Wh3Aj.64813$yE1.59750@attbi_s21:

It doesn't require hypersensitivity when someone is so glaringly
offensive. Nearly everyone on this thread has been trying to point
out to you that the French are not really different (better or worse)
than any other nationality on this planet, but no one can get through
to you. You are the one choosing not to listen, Jay.

No, Phil -- you're just not grasping the content of the conversation,
which is a dispassionate analysis of *why* the French are the butt of
so many jokes in America. =


It's becaquse they wouldn;t toe the line and kiss your master's ass you
racist piece of ****.

Bertie