Australia F111 to be scrapped!!

On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 14:49:48 +1100, "L'acrobat" wrote:


"Hobo" wrote in message
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"Dave Kearton" wrote:

You have to pick your wars carefully. Whichever engagement uses
our
F-111s will probably use all of the remaining airframe life.

I think the potential use the Aussies want to save the F-111 for is to
sink an Indonesian invasion fleet by air launching Harpoon missles.

Most Americans don't know this, but the Indos believe it is their
manifest destiny to absorb Australia.

Its pretty unlikely that Indonesia could put together a credible invasion
force in the next 10 years or so.

Even if they could its faster and cheaper to buy/build cruise missiles/ASMs
than it is to buy/build an invasion fleet.


You need boots on the ground. Cruise missiles, etc, can help, but the cannot
invade. Australia is (IMHO) counting on the US to come to the rescue. That
is not a bad assumption, as we would not let the Indos take Oz.

Al Minyard

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
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Even if they could its faster and cheaper to buy/build cruise
missiles/ASMs
than it is to buy/build an invasion fleet.


You need boots on the ground. Cruise missiles, etc, can help, but the
cannot
invade. Australia is (IMHO) counting on the US to come to the rescue. That
is not a bad assumption, as we would not let the Indos take Oz.

Australia has boots on the ground.

There is no credible invasion threat to Australia and an attempt to build
one would be easily detected.

It would require massive airpower (including AWACS and tankers), serious
amounts of AAW escorts and ASW escorts, a huge logistic support organisation
(land and sea) and then a large, deliverable Army and the means to deliver
it to Aust.

None of which Indonesia has.

In the case of invasion or attack Australia would call on its allies just
like the US did, but Australia already has the means to deal with any
credible invasion/raid of Aust and it seems likely that if Indonesia began
to scale up the sort of forces that would be needed to invade Aust, Aust
would start to scale up the forces needed to prevent it.

"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
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Even if they could its faster and cheaper to buy/build cruise
missiles/ASMs
than it is to buy/build an invasion fleet.


You need boots on the ground. Cruise missiles, etc, can help, but the
cannot
invade. Australia is (IMHO) counting on the US to come to the rescue.
That
is not a bad assumption, as we would not let the Indos take Oz.

Australia has boots on the ground.

There is no credible invasion threat to Australia and an attempt to build
one would be easily detected.

It would require massive airpower (including AWACS and tankers), serious
amounts of AAW escorts and ASW escorts, a huge logistic support
organisation
(land and sea) and then a large, deliverable Army and the means to deliver
it to Aust.

None of which Indonesia has.

In the case of invasion or attack Australia would call on its allies just
like the US did, but Australia already has the means to deal with any
credible invasion/raid of Aust and it seems likely that if Indonesia began
to scale up the sort of forces that would be needed to invade Aust, Aust
would start to scale up the forces needed to prevent it.

I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"L'acrobat" wrote in message
I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

Careful, the answer will be (from L'xxxxx) They lack the ships (just like
Japan) :-)

"Sunny" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"L'acrobat" wrote in message
I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate
India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

Careful, the answer will be (from L'xxxxx) They lack the ships (just like
Japan) :-)

Welcome to reality you sad sycophantic idiot.

India does lack the shipping to invade Aust, just as Japan lacked it in WW2.

Feel free to try to argue your point here, do you have the balls?

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

India lacks the ability to Invade, India lacks any wish to invade and India
has plenty of problems much closer to home, they don't need to go further
afield to find problems.

"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate
India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

India lacks the ability to Invade, India lacks any wish to invade and
India
has plenty of problems much closer to home, they don't need to go further
afield to find problems.

The Hindi must always be prepared for war with Islam.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate
India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

India lacks the ability to Invade, India lacks any wish to invade and
India
has plenty of problems much closer to home, they don't need to go
further
afield to find problems.

The Hindi must always be prepared for war with Islam.

They already have that with Pakistan and its clients.

"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"L'acrobat" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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I suspect India is the only credible threat to Oz and at the rate
India's
economy is growing they could just buy as much desert as they want.

India lacks the ability to Invade, India lacks any wish to invade and
India
has plenty of problems much closer to home, they don't need to go
further
afield to find problems.

The Hindi must always be prepared for war with Islam.

They already have that with Pakistan and its clients.

Have you looked into the mix of religions local to Oz? You know, those
islands north of you.