A Call to Arms from Richard VanGrunsven

WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:46:47 -0600, cavelamb himself wrote:


Thx, I understand the federal and statutory history but, I don't believe,
that is the issue here.

Here is my personal example. I don't have the expertise or time to kit or
plan build. These planes are, at least, the equivalent or superior to the
major manufacturers. If they are not, then I don't understand why the FAA
would allow them.

Yet I can't buy a completely built kit/plans plane. If this isn't to
control the entry plane market place (or the maj mfgs market), then why is
the restriction imposed. I understand all the philosophical and why ppl
have immense pride in their own-builds but that is not relevant to the
issue at hand.

Cessna goes to China to get the Skyscraper at a reasonable price. Yet we
have USA built planes off better value that are restricted from my purchase
because I can't flip fiberglass?


Actually, jst to keep the record straight, you CAN buy an X-AB airplane.
But the biulder can not build and register another of the same kind.

That puts him in unfair competition with the certified manufacturers
who went to the expense and trouble to certify their airplanes.


Appreciate the comment. If certification has value, why does this put him
in unfair competition?


Because it takes time and money.

Appreciate the comment. If certification has value, why does this put him
in unfair competition?



Because it takes time and money.



Replying to myself (because it's late)...


Ok first:

Certifications says that the airplane meets minimum standards for
controlability and performance. That is not the case with X-AB.

The airplane can be manufactured in quanity and sold freely.
But the design is then frozen.
No changes are allowed without recertification.

Experimental amateur built allows you to build an airplane for your own
education and recreation.

It does not have to meet FAA standards of any kind.

Usually the neophyte builder has some tool skills - but no where near
what he (or she!) will have when finished.
That's part of the education part.

But one who says he can't - before trying - is usually right.


Second:

Fiberglass is laid, not flipped.
And dog gone near anybody can learn to do it.
It's not magic.
Just messy.


And Lastly:

I humbly suggest that if you are going to come in here with that handle,
you need to make a much more active effort at educating yourself.

This is a very technical forum.

And there are some very talented and knowledgable people who hang here.

They mostly don't care for trolls.

For what it's worth...

Richard

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:29:05 -0600, cavelamb himself wrote:

Cessna goes to China to get the Skyscraper at a reasonable price. Yet we
have USA built planes off better value that are restricted from my purchase
because I can't flip fiberglass?


Actually, jst to keep the record straight, you CAN buy an X-AB airplane.
But the biulder can not build and register another of the same kind.

That puts him in unfair competition with the certified manufacturers
who went to the expense and trouble to certify their airplanes.

Appreciate the comment. If certification has value, why does this put him
in unfair competition?

Because it takes time and money.

Which they (Cessna in this e.g.) reclaim in a higher price and profit. If
not, then the value of certification is seriously in question.

And "flipping" fiber is a racing term for Corvette rebuilds.

Your troll,

WJRFlyboy
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