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Old March 8th 08, 05:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

But let me ask you something: Are you 100% sure your house is going to burn
down this year? If not, why are you wasting your money on insurance? Why
don't you just wait until you see flames, then buy a policy?


Not a good analogy, since we can obviously affect what happens to our own
homes. There is quite literally nothing that can be done by the average
person to influence the world's climate -- one way or the other -- so all
this blather and hand-wringing is nothing but noise and fury, signifying
nothing.


Nah. Humans are doing it, humans can stop doing it.

Well, except to the folks who stand to make a few billion dollars in
windfall profits by "studying" the phenomenon.


You heard that somewhere, evidently; whom are you talking about, exactly?

But all argument aside, I would politely ask for a list of things that we --
you and I -- can do that will "help" the climate problem as you see it.


Support taking tax breaks away from oil companies and applying them to
alternative energy development. Vote against politicians who are dumping
subsidies into bio-ethanol production and for politicians who'll spend the
money on solar and wind power. Drive a more fuel efficient car. Apply energy
conserving methods to your home and business.

Note that giving up your airplane is nowhere on the above list.


And I have a polite question: Do you understand why a 3 deg. C rise in global
average temperature by 2100 is a big deal?

--
Dan

"Sanity is not to be without fantasy, but to know reality, and remember the
difference."
- Clive James


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Old March 9th 08, 04:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Support taking tax breaks away from oil companies and applying them to
alternative energy development. Vote against politicians who are dumping
subsidies into bio-ethanol production and for politicians who'll spend the
money on solar and wind power. Drive a more fuel efficient car. Apply
energy conserving methods to your home and business.


Hey, I feel green already. I am literally in favor of (or against) all of
the things you are!

Don't forget, I'm the guy who tried (unsuccessfully) to buy an electric car
last fall, and we have spent the winter (and a stupidly grand amount of
money) converting every light fixture in our three 3-story buildings to
compact fluorescent bulbs.

And everyone here knows how I feel about the scam called "ethanol"...

So, you see -- even conservatives can be eco-friendly -- especially when
being that way also benefits the bottom line.

As to whether any of this will affect the world's climate, well, I think you
know my opinion of *that*...

Note that giving up your airplane is nowhere on the above list.


Whew! Thank goodness!

:-)

And I have a polite question: Do you understand why a 3 deg. C rise in
global average temperature by 2100 is a big deal?


In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global warming
scenario. After this winter -- the coldest, snowiest we've ever seen in
Iowa -- I'm all for any temperature increase that we humans can muster.

Hell, we should be so lucky...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 9th 08, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote:

And I have a polite question: Do you understand why a 3 deg. C rise in
global average temperature by 2100 is a big deal?


In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global warming
scenario.


Really? Name two.


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Old March 9th 08, 01:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global
warming scenario.


Really? Name two.


Bob and Ralph.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old March 9th 08, 01:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.religion.asatru,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.fllonk.flonk,alt.global-warming
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:UjRAj.68145$yE1.52587
@attbi_s21:

In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global
warming scenario.


Really? Name two.


Bob and Ralph.


Evasion noted.


Bertie
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Old March 9th 08, 05:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks
Cow Tse Tung
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In article , Bertie
the Bunyip says...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:UjRAj.68145$yE1.52587
@attbi_s21:

In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global
warming scenario.

Really? Name two.


Bob and Ralph.


Evasion noted.


Maybe they're acronyms?

--

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until I was told to go stand in one"
.....Grace Slick
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Old March 9th 08, 04:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.cascade
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default Global Warming The debbil made me do it

Cow Tse Tung wrote in
:

In article , Bertie
the Bunyip says...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:UjRAj.68145$yE1.52587 @attbi_s21:

In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any
global warming scenario.

Really? Name two.

Bob and Ralph.


Evasion noted.


Maybe they're acronyms?


'Big oily *******' and 'Regularly all lymphnodes park here'.


Bertie
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Old March 9th 08, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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Default Global Warming The debbil made me do it


"Jay Honeck" wrote:

In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global
warming scenario.


Really? Name two.


Bob and Ralph.


Another evasion, I note.

You don't know anything about the science behind this subject, do you, Jay?

You're willing to assert it's all a crock without having made any effort to
understand what you're condemning.

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM


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Old March 9th 08, 04:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,alt.global.warming
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Dan Luke" wrote in
:


"Jay Honeck" wrote:

In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global
warming scenario.

Really? Name two.


Bob and Ralph.


Another evasion, I note.

You don't know anything about the science behind this subject, do you,
Jay?

You're willing to assert it's all a crock without having made any
effort to understand what you're condemning.


It's 'what he does'


Bertie

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Old March 11th 08, 02:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Default Global Warming The debbil made me do it

Bob and Ralph.

Another evasion, I note.

You don't know anything about the science behind this subject, do you,
Jay?


Really, Dan, there's no reason to be rude. I just thought I'd lighten you
up a bit. To no avail, I see.

Well, anyway -- try this one on for size:

http://www.climateark.org/shared/rea...x?linkid=35203

It's from 2004, but the Iowa State study shows that any warming will be
strongest in the winter (good) and at night (good), and that increased
rainfall (good) will accompany any increase in temperatures.

Trust me -- any increase in winter temperature in Iowa is a very good thing,
indeed. And more rain with warmer temps will only make Iowa bloom even more
than it does now -- which is pretty hard to imagine.

I could go Google you some more studies, but it's really not that hard to
do. It seems that every Tom, Dick and Al has produced one.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

 




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