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On Mar 9, 12:56 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dan wrote : On Mar 9, 12:25 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote: "Dan" wrote: In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global warming scenario. Really? Name two. Can't speak for Iowa, but perhaps wading through 19,000 signatures will dampen your anti-denier zeal? http://www.oism.org/pproject/index.htm HAW-HAW-HAW! At last--The Oregon Petition! I *knew* one of you dupes would drag that in here. Gotcha! The OP is a fraud. Deniers cite it to claim there are19,000 (or 17,000 or 21,000) scientists who doubt that AGW is real. There aren't, but guys like you will believe it without checking because you desperately want to. Just like you believe the "they were predicting global cooling in 1970" lie, the "CO2 is a tiny part of the atmosphere so it can't cause warming" lie and a dozen others. You should be noticing by now that the sources you get this stuff from are bull****ting you. How many lemon used cars do you have to buy before you realize the dealer is screwing you? A bunch, apparently, since you bought the Oregon Petition, too. Skeptics have already waded through the OP: "Scientific American took a sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition -- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers - a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition So, only 1,400 signatories even *claimed* to have anything to do with climate science. And out of that 1,400, two hundred were climate researchers. That's a long way from 19,000 scientists who doubt that AGW is real, isn't it? You won't listen to "climate researchers" unless they abide by your hysteria. I gotta go shovel the snow caused by all this global warming. You're going to be shoveling a lot more of it due to global warming. Bertie Fine by me. I'll just move to Iowa where's it gonna be paradise pretty soon! Dan |
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Dan wrote in
: On Mar 9, 12:56 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Dan wrote innews:bd53a4da-10c7-445f-a2ac-bf7ce8b1dabc@ 13g2000hsb.googlegroups.co m: On Mar 9, 12:25 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote: "Dan" wrote: In every model I've seen, Iowa comes out a big winner in any global warming scenario. Really? Name two. Can't speak for Iowa, but perhaps wading through 19,000 signatures will dampen your anti-denier zeal? http://www.oism.org/pproject/index.htm HAW-HAW-HAW! At last--The Oregon Petition! I *knew* one of you dupes would drag that in here. Gotcha! The OP is a fraud. Deniers cite it to claim there are19,000 (or 17,000 or 21,000) scientists who doubt that AGW is real. There aren't, but guys like you will believe it without checking because you desperately want to. Just like you believe the "they were predicting global cooling in 1970" lie, the "CO2 is a tiny part of the atmosphere so it can't cause warming" lie and a dozen others. You should be noticing by now that the sources you get this stuff from are bull****ting you. How many lemon used cars do you have to buy before you realize the dealer is screwing you? A bunch, apparently, since you bought the Oregon Petition, too. Skeptics have already waded through the OP: "Scientific American took a sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition -- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers - a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Petition So, only 1,400 signatories even *claimed* to have anything to do with climate science. And out of that 1,400, two hundred were climate researchers. That's a long way from 19,000 scientists who doubt that AGW is real, isn't it? You won't listen to "climate researchers" unless they abide by your hysteria. I gotta go shovel the snow caused by all this global warming. You're going to be shoveling a lot more of it due to global warming. Bertie Fine by me. I'll just move to Iowa where's it gonna be paradise pretty soon! Why, is Jay moving? Seriously, you seem to fail to undersnd what this is all about. it's not about a slightly balmier climate. It's about a good deal more energy being involved in the wx. Whatever else may happen, that is certain. Bertie |
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On Mar 9, 2:16 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
I'll just move to Iowa where's it gonna be paradise pretty soon! Why, is Jay moving? Seriously, you seem to fail to undersnd what this is all about. it's not about a slightly balmier climate. It's about a good deal more energy being involved in the wx. Whatever else may happen, that is certain. Bertie You're right that I am failing. I am failing to agree with those who insist that the oceans will rise 20 feet, the 0.6 Degree rise we see is solely due to man made causes, and that the earth is unable to regulate the temperature through natural processes. I'm also failing to agree that when the Climate change apostles preach, "All the world's scientists agree," but when anyone dares offer contrary opinion, they are pilloried as "not climate scientists." You fly in weather -- when the hell did a "scientist" ever get it right 50% of the time? In fact, that's another laughable trait of this latest "crisis" -- it is the first time in science history that "all scientist agree." Dan |
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On Mar 9, 2:41 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
You fly in weather -- when the hell did a "scientist" ever get it right 50% of the time? These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time. My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the forecast was made. Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have been thought impossible just a few years ago. Bertie From which source? I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very strong (40 Knots @ 3000) or very light. That said, I think the effect of the local topography is not factored in or perhaps ignored (The Alleghenies). Dan |
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Dan wrote in
: On Mar 9, 2:41 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: You fly in weather -- when the hell did a "scientist" ever get it right 50% of the time? These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time. My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the forecast was made. Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have been thought impossible just a few years ago. Bertie From which source? Can't you read? Me. I just told you. Moi, Ich, myself with my own eyes. I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very strong (40 Knots @ 3000) or very light. Well, what can I tel you, must be a denier serivce you're using. That said, I think the effect of the local topography is not factored in or perhaps ignored (The Alleghenies). Mine are for high alt. The wx service wont tell you the wind at the top of every peak, that's YOUR job to extrapolate. They could if they were so inclined, though. Bertie |
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On Mar 9, 3:35 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time. My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they are generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when the forecast was made. Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would have been thought impossible just a few years ago. Bertie From which source? Can't you read? Me. I just told you. Moi, Ich, myself with my own eyes. I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very strong (40 Knots @ 3000) or very light. Mine are for high alt. The wx service wont tell you the wind at the top of every peak, that's YOUR job to extrapolate. Bertie I don't fly high alt -- I fly between 5-14k. I know what my job is -- thanks, and therefore how to extrapolate. Dan |
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