Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight
on any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY


At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older
designs must have been--and then I learned that some of those old
factory specs were just as imaginative as some of the earliest kits.

Actually, many of them were quite accurate. HF is right, the T-cart would
do close on 100 with an A-65 and so would a Luscombe. The Monocoupe 90 was
very quick and the 30s Cessnas delivered as advertised as well.
The aoirplanes that could be classified as "pilots" airplanes tended to do
waht they said in advertising because if they didn;'t they would be found
out pretty quickly. The airplanes that were pitched more at newcomers
probably suffered more from exageration.


Bertie

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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level flight
on any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY


At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older
designs must have been--and then I learned that some of those old
factory specs were just as imaginative as some of the earliest kits.

Actually, many of them were quite accurate. HF is right, the T-cart would
do close on 100 with an A-65 and so would a Luscombe. The Monocoupe 90 was
very quick and the 30s Cessnas delivered as advertised as well.
The aoirplanes that could be classified as "pilots" airplanes tended to do
waht they said in advertising because if they didn;'t they would be found
out pretty quickly. The airplanes that were pitched more at newcomers
probably suffered more from exageration.


Bertie

Thanks for that. Some of those old Cessna numbers really looked a little
too good--so I am expecially glad they were true.

I had previously confirmed that the T-carts were impressive performers, but
have never known anything about the Monocoupes.

Peter

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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. Have yet to see 110 mph in level
flight on any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't!
:-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY


At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older
designs must have been--and then I learned that some of those old
factory specs were just as imaginative as some of the earliest kits.

Actually, many of them were quite accurate. HF is right, the T-cart
would do close on 100 with an A-65 and so would a Luscombe. The
Monocoupe 90 was very quick and the 30s Cessnas delivered as
advertised as well. The aoirplanes that could be classified as
"pilots" airplanes tended to do waht they said in advertising because
if they didn;'t they would be found out pretty quickly. The airplanes
that were pitched more at newcomers probably suffered more from
exageration.


Bertie

Thanks for that. Some of those old Cessna numbers really looked a
little too good--so I am expecially glad they were true.

I had previously confirmed that the T-carts were impressive
performers, but have never known anything about the Monocoupes.


Well, they won races time after time in the thirties. Nothing could
touch them. Johnny Livingston even flew one race inverted to spice
things up.With bigger engines and clipped wings they went even faster.
We're talking RV performance in the early thirties with similar
horsepower and farily hairy chested handling.. Since Don Luscombe was
one of the designers you can see how the Luscombes were race-bred.


Bertie

On Mar 15, 9:44*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. *Have yet to see 110 mph in level
flight on any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they aren't!
:-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY

At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older
designs must have been--and then I learned that some of those old
factory specs were just as imaginative as some of the earliest kits.

Actually, many of them were quite accurate. HF is right, the T-cart
would do close on 100 with an A-65 and so would a Luscombe. The
Monocoupe 90 was very quick and the 30s Cessnas delivered as
advertised as well. The aoirplanes that could be classified as
"pilots" airplanes tended to do waht they said in advertising because
if they didn;'t they would be found out pretty quickly. The airplanes
that were pitched more at newcomers probably suffered more from
exageration.

Bertie

Thanks for that. *Some of those old Cessna numbers really looked a
little too good--so I am expecially glad they were true.

I had previously confirmed that the T-carts were impressive
performers, but have never known anything about the Monocoupes.

Well, they won races time after time in the thirties. Nothing could
touch them. Johnny Livingston even flew one race inverted to spice
things up.With bigger engines and clipped wings they went even faster.
We're talking RV performance in the early thirties with similar
horsepower and farily hairy chested handling.. Since Don *Luscombe was
one of the designers you can see how the Luscombes were race-bred.

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The Kitfox reminds me of the Coupe.

http://www.pnwaero.com/images/Kitfox1.jpg Fox

http://www.airventuremuseum.org/imag...0Special-1.jpg
Coupe

Wil

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The Tcart used to cruise at 100 in real life on a Continental
A-65.

I have flown several Coupes. *Have yet to see 110 mph in level
flight on any of them!

Sometimes specifications are accurate, and sometimes they
aren't!
:-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport, PJY

At one time, I marvelled at how much more capable so many older
designs must have been--and then I learned that some of those old
factory specs were just as imaginative as some of the earliest
kits.

Actually, many of them were quite accurate. HF is right, the
T-cart would do close on 100 with an A-65 and so would a Luscombe.
The Monocoupe 90 was very quick and the 30s Cessnas delivered as
advertised as well. The aoirplanes that could be classified as
"pilots" airplanes tended to do waht they said in advertising
because if they didn;'t they would be found out pretty quickly.
The airplanes that were pitched more at newcomers probably
suffered more from exageration.

Bertie

Thanks for that. *Some of those old Cessna numbers really looked a
little too good--so I am expecially glad they were true.

I had previously confirmed that the T-carts were impressive
performers, but have never known anything about the Monocoupes.

Well, they won races time after time in the thirties. Nothing could
touch them. Johnny Livingston even flew one race inverted to spice
things up.With bigger engines and clipped wings they went even
faster. We're talking RV performance in the early thirties with
similar horsepower and farily hairy chested handling.. Since Don
*Luscombe was one of the designers you can see how the Luscombes were
race-bred.

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The Kitfox reminds me of the Coupe.

It's supposed to, the bump cowl and such. But it's nothing like it,
really. For one thing, the 'coupe wasn't built like lawn furniture.. And
a 'coupe with a two stroke? Shudder!


Bertie

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The Kitfox reminds me of the Coupe.

Bunyip:

It's supposed to, the bump cowl and such. But it's nothing like it,
really. For one thing, the 'coupe wasn't built like lawn furniture.. And
a 'coupe with a two stroke? Shudder!


Bertie

If you want to see a "modern" homebuilt version of the Monocoupe take a look
at the "Mullicoupe" that were designed by Jim Younkin. It looks like a
"standoff" scale model of the clipwing Monocoupe with the Warner radial
engine. Actually it is somewhat larger, being basically a two place
version of Ike Howard's "Mr. Mulligan" racer, which later became the Howard
series of airplanes. Jim built a Mr. Mulligan replica which goes like
blazes. Bud Dake had a lovely Warner Monocoupe and wanted something a bit
bigger. Jim told me he used a lot of Howard in the Mullicoupe. Bud told me
that the pilot visibility in the Mullicoupe was a lot better than in the
Monocoupe. The Mullicoupe was powered by a 450 HP R-985 Pratt and Whitney
so it had the power to get up an go. It would cruise at well over 200 mph.
I never got to fly it before Bud was killed in an unfortunate crash with his
Monocoupe at St. Louis a few years ago.

Highflyer

On Mar 17, 10:31*pm, "Highflyer" wrote:
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in .com... wrote in
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The Kitfox reminds me of the Coupe.

Bunyip:

It's supposed to, the bump cowl and such. But it's nothing like it,
really. For one thing, the 'coupe wasn't built like lawn furniture.. And
a 'coupe with a two stroke? Shudder!

Bertie

If you want to see a "modern" homebuilt version of the Monocoupe take a look
at the "Mullicoupe" that were designed by Jim Younkin. *It looks like a
"standoff" scale model of the clipwing Monocoupe with the Warner radial
engine. *Actually it *is somewhat larger, being basically a two place
version of Ike Howard's "Mr. Mulligan" racer, which later became the Howard
series of airplanes. *Jim built a Mr. Mulligan replica which goes like
blazes. *Bud Dake had a lovely Warner Monocoupe and wanted something a bit
bigger. *Jim told me he used a lot of Howard in the Mullicoupe. *Bud told me
that the pilot visibility in the Mullicoupe was a lot better than in the
Monocoupe. *The Mullicoupe was powered by a 450 HP R-985 Pratt and Whitney
so it had the power to get up an go. *It would cruise at well over 200 mph.
I never got to fly it before Bud was killed in an unfortunate crash with his
Monocoupe at St. Louis a few years ago.

Highflyer

Thanks HF. I Googled "Mullicoupe". Beautiful is not adequet of a
word to describe the plane.

Wil