Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

Peter Dohm wrote:
"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:



Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.


What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.

I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse idea.
If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my house
110' off the center line either you are planting a really large aircraft
on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy


I agree, and might add that 110' from the centerline is pretty generous
compared to some of the residential airparks that I have visited. OTOH, all
that open space does give you that panoramic view you bought it for. :-)

Peter



On second thought it's closer to 85' from the centerline. The runway is
100' wide and the minimum setback is 35'. Just about everyone else
puts their hangar up on the runway and sets the house back, but we are a
corner lot so we can taxi down the taxiway and put the hangar down there
and put the house up on the runway. Actually our hangar is attached to
the house. It's going to be great when it's finished (repeat often).

Margy

Margy Natalie wrote:


On second thought it's closer to 85' from the centerline. The runway is
100' wide and the minimum setback is 35'. Just about everyone else
puts their hangar up on the runway and sets the house back, but we are a
corner lot so we can taxi down the taxiway and put the hangar down there
and put the house up on the runway. Actually our hangar is attached to
the house. It's going to be great when it's finished (repeat often).

Margy



It will be great when it's finished.

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Peter Dohm wrote:
"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:



Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.


What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.

I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse idea.
If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my house
110' off the center line either you are planting a really large aircraft
on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy


I agree, and might add that 110' from the centerline is pretty generous
compared to some of the residential airparks that I have visited. OTOH,
all that open space does give you that panoramic view you bought it for.
:-)

Peter



On second thought it's closer to 85' from the centerline. The runway is
100' wide and the minimum setback is 35'. Just about everyone else puts
their hangar up on the runway and sets the house back, but we are a corner
lot so we can taxi down the taxiway and put the hangar down there and put
the house up on the runway. Actually our hangar is attached to the house.
It's going to be great when it's finished (repeat often).

Margy

It'll be great when it's fininshed.

Peter
(Actually, mine'll be pretty good when it's even started.)

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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On second thought it's closer to 85' from the centerline. The runway is
100' wide and the minimum setback is 35'.

A hundred feet wide. Wow. Though there's no houses nearby ( no sewers and
the land won't perk) our runway is all of 25' wide. My gear is 8' center to
center, so that leaves me 8' on each side for errors. Plenty of room there,
even though it's one of those old-fashioned designs with the third wheel in
the back, y'know. The few tricycler's don't even need that much. There's a
good eight inch drop off the edges of the new blacktop, so if you go off the
edge, you'll probably turn over or at least ruin a set of wheel pants.

Been flying there ten years now and never had a problem, even in crosswinds.
Haven't heard of anyone else going askew, either. I guess maybe if some rank
beginner was to come in there (you know, someone with less than the seven
hours I had before I soloed in a Cessna 120) he might run a bit wide of
centerline. I guess that's why it's a privately owned strip and marked "R"
on the sectional - just to relieve the owner of a bit of liability.

We have the occasional jogger, bicyclist, or horseback rider going up and
down the runway, but the pilots around here actually put the microphone down
and look out the window once in a while.

I would love to live on an airpark with a nice wide runway, especially if
it's rolled turf. So much safer and easier on the equipment. I envy you,
Margy. If I was 20 or 30 years younger, I'd jump at the opportunity.

Fly safe and tailwinds,
Rich S.

To those who are frightened of such a risk, please find a nice condo - in
New Jersey (no offence to the Jerseyites)

Rich S. wrote:


I would love to live on an airpark with a nice wide runway, especially if
it's rolled turf. So much safer and easier on the equipment. I envy you,
Margy. If I was 20 or 30 years younger, I'd jump at the opportunity.

Fly safe and tailwinds,
Rich S.

The pre-drought turf was great, now it's a bit lumpy, but I'm sure a few
good months of rain and some overseeding will put it right.

Margy

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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The pre-drought turf was great, now it's a bit lumpy, but I'm sure a few
good months of rain and some overseeding will put it right.

The owners of Wax Orchards airport (WA69) used to be proud to say their
runway was the smoothest turf strip anywhere. I see their description at
Airnav http://www.airnav.com/airport/WA69 says "Surface: turf, in fair
condition". They used to roll it until it felt like a billiard table. Wish
my lawn was in half that shape.

Rich S.

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"Rich S." wrote:

"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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The pre-drought turf was great, now it's a bit lumpy, but I'm sure a few
good months of rain and some overseeding will put it right.

The owners of Wax Orchards airport (WA69) used to be proud to say their
runway was the smoothest turf strip anywhere. I see their description at
Airnav http://www.airnav.com/airport/WA69 says "Surface: turf, in fair
condition". They used to roll it until it felt like a billiard table. Wish
my lawn was in half that shape.

Rich S.

Leeward Air Ranch has some pretty smooth turf. I landed there once and
the only indication I got that we touched down was the drag on the
landing gear.

The place is nice, but too far out in the boondocks, is on wells and
septic systems and has auto traffic on the main taxiway.

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On Mar 14, 11:55 pm, "Rich S."
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To those who are frightened of such a risk, please find a nice condo - in
New Jersey (no offence to the Jerseyites)

Everybody hates New Jersey, but somebody has to live there.


Dan Mc

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Dan wrote:

On Mar 14, 11:55 pm, "Rich S."
wrote:

To those who are frightened of such a risk, please find a nice condo - in
New Jersey (no offence to the Jerseyites)

Everybody hates New Jersey, but somebody has to live there.

Why?

Are they being punished?

"Steve Hix" wrote in message
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Dan wrote:

On Mar 14, 11:55 pm, "Rich S."
wrote:

To those who are frightened of such a risk, please find a nice condo -
in
New Jersey (no offence to the Jerseyites)

Everybody hates New Jersey, but somebody has to live there.

Why?

Are they being punished?

Yes! It's a modern day Australia.