Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

Recently, WJRFlyBoy posted:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:09:55 -0600, Neil Gould wrote:

Having read many of your posts, I have to agree with Morgans'
suggestion that you argue less and listen more. Once you start your
flight training you will find that many of your current concerns in
areas such as this are unwarranted. [...]

I appreciate the thought Neil but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat.

I apologize for thinking you were pre-flight student, but your few hundred
hours of flying doesn't show in your concerns in this thread. In that
amount of time, it would seem to me that you would have flown into
airports with far less tolerance than 60' off centerline. To me, 60' is as
good as a mile, since the wingspans of the planes I fly are far less than
that and many runways have trees and other obstructions closer than those
houses.

First, most everyone assumed that I have some kind of irrational
problem with airparks. The irrationality I find is that few, one or
two, wanted to discuss the very real possibilities of serious person
and property damage. Let's take the recent Velocity-RV incident, put
that in an airpark and you have major, potential carnage.

From my perspective, and those of several others, the issues are risk
management and judgement rather than some inherently difficult
circumstance of the layout you described. As another person pointed out
during this discussion, those living in an airpark would get a lot of
practice flying into and out of that strip, which further reduces the
risks.

Best,

Neil

On Mar 17, 11:19 am, "Neil Gould" wrote:
Recently, WJRFlyBoy posted:

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:09:55 -0600, Neil Gould wrote:

Having read many of your posts, I have to agree with Morgans'
suggestion that you argue less and listen more. Once you start your
flight training you will find that many of your current concerns in
areas such as this are unwarranted. [...]

I appreciate the thought Neil but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat.

I apologize for thinking you were pre-flight student, but your few hundred
hours of flying doesn't show in your concerns in this thread.

Hmmmm. Perhaps the reason for your confusion is:

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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:16:22 -0500
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It's time to stop talking and start doing so I would appreciate any
advice
on how to assess a flight school, instructor, pricing and any other
suggestions.

No advice too basic, trust me Including what I should have included
in
this post or requested in the first place

TIA

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Objective: Flight for business (SE USA), travel between two homes
(Caribbean) and simple pleasure
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), cavedweller wrote:

I apologize for thinking you were pre-flight student, but your few hundred
hours of flying doesn't show in your concerns in this thread.

Hmmmm. Perhaps the reason for your confusion is:

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It's time to stop talking and start doing so I would appreciate any
advice
on how to assess a flight school, instructor, pricing and any other
suggestions.

See signature below.

"I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone."

On Mar 17, 5:03*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), cavedweller wrote:
I apologize for thinking you were pre-flight student, but your few hundred
hours of flying doesn't show in your concerns in this thread.

Hmmmm. *Perhaps the reason for your confusion is:

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It's time to stop talking and start doing so I would appreciate any
advice
on how to assess a flight school, instructor, pricing and any other
suggestions.

See signature below.

"I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....

cavedweller wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:03 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), cavedweller wrote:

I apologize for thinking you were pre-flight student, but your few hundred
hours of flying doesn't show in your concerns in this thread.

Hmmmm. Perhaps the reason for your confusion is:

"WJRFlyBoy
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It's time to stop talking and start doing so I would appreciate any
advice
on how to assess a flight school, instructor, pricing and any other
suggestions.

See signature below.

"I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....




MS Flight Sim

On Mar 17, 6:22*pm, cavelamb himself wrote:
cavedweller wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:03 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:09:54 -0700 (PDT), cavedweller wrote:

I apologize for thinking you were pre-flight student, but your few hundred
hours of flying doesn't show in your concerns in this thread.

Hmmmm. *Perhaps the reason for your confusion is:

"WJRFlyBoy
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It's time to stop talking and start doing so I would appreciate any
advice
on how to assess a flight school, instructor, pricing and any other
suggestions.

See signature below.

"I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." * Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....

MS Flight Sim- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm still struggling with the double negative in the quote above. No
matter.
I should clip, too.....next time maybe.

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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cavedweller wrote:
On Mar 17, 5:03 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:

---------some snipping---------

"I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....




MS Flight Sim

I was thinking "shades of JFK Jr" but you are more likely right.

In article ,
cavedweller wrote:

But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....

I know a CFII who always flies from the right seat, even when solo.
So his wife has probably close to a thousand hours in the left
seat (but never did get her pilot certificate).

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Bob Noel
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On Mar 17, 8:46*pm, Bob Noel
wrote:
In article ,

*cavedweller wrote:
But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." * Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....

I know a CFII who always flies from the right seat, even when solo.
So his wife has probably close to a thousand hours in the left
seat (but never did get her pilot certificate).

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)


AND NEITHER HAS FLYBOY

See Below:

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 04:11:04 -0500
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I have been reading the various threads about spins, forced landings,
etc
and talking with CFIs. The road to a PPL is preset in requirements by
FAA.
I see that most people are happy to do nothing more than that.
Outside
of
the cost factors, I find this much more than curious considering the
consequences. You can get killed, that one keeps jumping out at me


I am asking the group for assistance in developing a list of
instructional
and solo experiences, testing, mandatory reading.....if you ran the
FAA,
what would you require in a near-perfect world that a PPL would
require? I
am a zero-hour wannabe pilot FYI


For a start, I won't begin my first instruction until I can do the
following:


Pass all tests with a 95% minimum
Handle with ease all traffic control and similar commo
Dissect the anatomy of my training aircraft
Understand what and how the instrumentation works (shortcomings
included)
Own all the fundamentally necessary flight gear (i.e carry-ons in
flight
bag or on person)
Obtain hours in flight simulation
More...enough for now.


TIA. The group is an extremely valuable resource; I sincerely doubt I
would
be so focused and confident without your past, present and future
work
here.
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:25:05 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:

But you said, upthread, "..but it's not like I haven't had a few
hundred hours in single/twin in the left seat." * Sorry to quibble but
I confuse easily, you see.....

I know a CFII who always flies from the right seat, even when solo.
So his wife has probably close to a thousand hours in the left
seat (but never did get her pilot certificate).

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

AND NEITHER HAS FLYBOY

See Below:

More Bob Hooey.

Asked and answered but, of course, since you "killfiled" me, you have
nothing more than Bob Hooey facts made of heaping amounts of Bob Hooey.
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.