Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:20:12 -0700, gatt wrote:

Buncha developers getting their asses handed to them in Oregon.

Not so much the case in FL but I have seen the same kind of disdain for
the environment and it is a f***ing shame.

Yeah. I didn't mean this to be an attack on developers as a whole, but,
there are some real predatorial land-raper dirtbags out here that came up
with a bunch of money and screwed a whole lot of people out of their own,
leaving the local economy and culture to deal with the debris. In our
neighborhood they got bought up a bunch of land, got approval to subdivide
lots, built and sold giant snouthouses and now the neighborhood is twice as
crowded, property values are dropping and these guys have long ago sold out,
collected their cash and moved on to plunder somebody else's community.

The airport/airpark business is a tough development mark to hit. It is
highly specialized, noise, post 9/11 fears, drug trafficking, high
liabilities, difficult financing, the list is long.

Fascinating that "post 9/11 fears" and drug trafficking are concerns. The
latter could be said for low-rent housing, condos, college apartments, etc,
but the 9/11 thing is weird. I'm positive there's more methamphetamine and
marijuana trafficing in the hundreds or thousands lower-middle-class
apartments that have popped up around Evergreen than there was coming
through the airstrip itself.

-c

On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:19:34 -0700, gatt wrote:

The airport/airpark business is a tough development mark to hit. It is
highly specialized, noise, post 9/11 fears, drug trafficking, high
liabilities, difficult financing, the list is long.

Fascinating that "post 9/11 fears" and drug trafficking are concerns. The
latter could be said for low-rent housing, condos, college apartments, etc,
but the 9/11 thing is weird. I'm positive there's more methamphetamine and
marijuana trafficing in the hundreds or thousands lower-middle-class
apartments that have popped up around Evergreen than there was coming
through the airstrip itself.

I'm sure your right. Relevance to public impressions, none.

Take for instance Immakolee Airport. Because it has a FTZ, and a couple
of busts, the public impression is that it's part Mena, part Islamic
stronghold. (the latter from several Middle Eastern owners who have drop
warehouses there.

Public impressions vote.
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:19:34 -0700, gatt wrote:

Buncha developers getting their asses handed to them in Oregon.

Not so much the case in FL but I have seen the same kind of disdain for
the environment and it is a f***ing shame.

Yeah. I didn't mean this to be an attack on developers as a whole, but,
there are some real predatorial land-raper dirtbags out here that came up
with a bunch of money and screwed a whole lot of people out of their own,
leaving the local economy and culture to deal with the debris. In our
neighborhood they got bought up a bunch of land, got approval to subdivide
lots, built and sold giant snouthouses and now the neighborhood is twice as
crowded, property values are dropping and these guys have long ago sold out,
collected their cash and moved on to plunder somebody else's community.

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.
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"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.


Hmm. Well, best of luck with that. I've lived under one traffic pattern
or another pretty much all my life and I haven't gotten tired of it yet!

-c

In article ,
"gatt" wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.

In other words, screwing over other people for (your) fun and profit.

Charming.

Hmm. Well, best of luck with that. I've lived under one traffic pattern
or another pretty much all my life and I haven't gotten tired of it yet!

He sounds like an ambulance chaser looking for a more sedentary life.

On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 19:38:25 -0700, Steve Hix wrote:

In article ,
"gatt" wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.

In other words, screwing over other people for (your) fun and profit.

Charming.

No, that would be your words, Hix. Convolution noted for your w/e
agenda.
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:07:25 -0700, gatt wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...

Then let me step up and tell you that land developers, a community in
which I muck around in, is full of swarthy corporations and individuals
who could care less about the environmental issue /other/ than how to
get around them. In FL, there are loopholes all over the place. How do I
know? Because we have formed our own ecoscience group to deal with the
Army Corp, the water districts, the DEP, NOAA, USWLF, ad infinitum.

Sounds great!

We hold accountability to our processes. Airparks appear to be a
possible development area where we can apply that accountability and
have potential for profits.

Hmm. Well, best of luck with that. I've lived under one traffic pattern
or another pretty much all my life and I haven't gotten tired of it yet!

-c

Thanks. Environmental accountability, FYI, doesn't include traffic
patterns in the sense that I meant it. More about wetlands, mitigations,
etc.
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