Global Warming The debbil made me do it

"Dan" wrote

"hockey stick" was trashed a long time ago,

No, it wasn't.

but the alarmists cling to
it.

The denialists cling to that fiction.

On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Dan" wrote

"hockey stick" was trashed a long time ago,

No, it wasn't.

but the alarmists cling to
it.

The denialists cling to that fiction.

Here's some easy reading to consider: http://www.climatechangeissues.com/f...5mckitrick.pdf

Dan Mc

"Dan" wrote:

Here's some easy reading to consider:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/f...5mckitrick.pdf



And here's some with a very familiar ring to it:

http://www.aras.ab.ca/aidsquotes.htm

"Dan" wrote"


Here's some easy reading to consider:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/f...5mckitrick.pdf


And here's some mo

http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2005/ammann.shtml


In response to Congressional inquiries sparked by McIntyre's and McKitrick's
criticisms of Mann, et al. '98 & '99, the NRC conducted an investigation into
the statistical methods that produced the "hockey stick" shape of the proxy
reconstruction. The NRC said:

"The basic conclusion of Mann et al. (1998, 1999) was that the late 20th
century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least
the last 1,000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an
array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface
temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy
indicators, such as melting on icecaps and the retreat of glaciers around the
world, which in many cases appear to be unprecedented during at least the last
2,000 years. Not all individual proxy records indicate that the recent warmth
is unprecedented, although a larger fraction of geographically diverse sites
experienced exceptional warmth during the late 20th century than during any
other extended period from A.D. 900 onward."

Bottom line? The "hockey stick" controversy is a dead horse, but deniers are
still beating the hell out of it, trying to ride it one more mile.

"Dan" wrote in message
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On Mar 20, 10:31 pm, "Dan Luke" wrote:
"Dan" wrote

"hockey stick" was trashed a long time ago,

No, it wasn't.

but the alarmists cling to
it.

The denialists cling to that fiction.

Well, let's see:

The "Hokey Stick" denies the little Iace Age that ended in 1850, it denies
the Medieval Warm Period, and when other researchers stuffed random numbers
into it, it still produced a Hokey Stick.

That's pretty evident that the denial is in Luke, and it borders on
dementia.


Here's some easy reading to consider:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/f...5mckitrick.pdf

Quite! Mann's "work" is right up there with Flat Earth and "Intelligent
Design"
type garbage.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote:

The denialists cling to that fiction.

Well, let's see:

The "Hokey Stick" denies the little Iace Age that ended in 1850, it denies
the Medieval Warm Period, and when other researchers stuffed random numbers
into it, it still produced a Hokey Stick.

Right: THE CONSPIRACY (TM). They're all in on it. Even the NRC.

"...stuffed random numbers ..." Haw! You're hilarious.



That's pretty evident that the denial is in Luke, and it borders on
dementia.

Coming from a guy who believed the Ol' Perfesser, that's amusing, too.


Here's some easy reading to consider:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/f...5mckitrick.pdf

Quite! Mann's "work" is right up there with Flat Earth and "Intelligent
Design"
type garbage.

How ironic that you are unable to recognize AGW deniers using the same tactics
as your buddy Ben Stein. I wonder what your reaction will be to his film
about mainstream science suppressing Intelligent Design. Did you hear your
other AGW denier buddy Limbaugh slurping him on the radio?

Cognitive dissonance seems to be your fate in life, doesn't it?

"Dan Luke" wrote in
:


"Matt W. Barrow" wrote:

The denialists cling to that fiction.

Well, let's see:

The "Hokey Stick" denies the little Iace Age that ended in 1850, it
denies the Medieval Warm Period, and when other researchers stuffed
random numbers into it, it still produced a Hokey Stick.

Right: THE CONSPIRACY (TM). They're all in on it. Even the NRC.

"...stuffed random numbers ..." Haw! You're hilarious.



That's pretty evident that the denial is in Luke, and it borders on
dementia.

Coming from a guy who believed the Ol' Perfesser, that's amusing, too.


Here's some easy reading to consider:
http://www.climatechangeissues.com/f...5mckitrick.pdf

Quite! Mann's "work" is right up there with Flat Earth and
"Intelligent Design"
type garbage.

How ironic that you are unable to recognize AGW deniers using the same
tactics as your buddy Ben Stein. I wonder what your reaction will be
to his film about mainstream science suppressing Intelligent Design.
Did you hear your other AGW denier buddy Limbaugh slurping him on the
radio?

Cognitive dissonance seems to be your fate in life, doesn't it?




This was just sent to me by a friend...



You may be aware of a piece of creationist propaganda called "Expelled:
No Intelligence Allowed." I know at least some of you are familiar with
a wonderful blog called Pharyngula
(http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/)
written by PZ Myers, a professor of biology at the University of
Minnesota.

So with background out of the way, I got to hear this story... Last
night there was a screening of "Expelled" at the Mall of America.
Attendees had to register in advance for tickets. Myers appears in the
film and even gets an acknowledgment of gratitude. So he registered,
along with his family and a guest, the guy who told this story.

While waiting in line to sign in for the screening, a cop came up to
Myers and told him he was not going to be allowed to enter. A producer
had recognized him and told the cops to, well, expel him from the
premises. Apparently his intelligence and scientific knowledge were not
welcome. Maybe he'd contaminate the vibe or something.

So he went downstairs to the Apple store while his family and guest
went
ahead watched the flick, which by all accounts ranged from laughable to
pathetic.

The irony level is obviously screaming towards the stratosphere by this
point. But here's what pushes it over the edge. Myers' guest, who
apparently was not recognized and who told this story this morning
was...Richard Dawkins!


Good stuff, eh?


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:



This was just sent to me by a friend...



You may be aware of a piece of creationist propaganda called "Expelled:
No Intelligence Allowed." I know at least some of you are familiar with
a wonderful blog called Pharyngula
(http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/)
written by PZ Myers, a professor of biology at the University of
Minnesota.

So with background out of the way, I got to hear this story... Last
night there was a screening of "Expelled" at the Mall of America.
Attendees had to register in advance for tickets. Myers appears in the
film and even gets an acknowledgment of gratitude. So he registered,
along with his family and a guest, the guy who told this story.

While waiting in line to sign in for the screening, a cop came up to
Myers and told him he was not going to be allowed to enter. A producer
had recognized him and told the cops to, well, expel him from the
premises. Apparently his intelligence and scientific knowledge were not
welcome. Maybe he'd contaminate the vibe or something.

So he went downstairs to the Apple store while his family and guest
went
ahead watched the flick, which by all accounts ranged from laughable to
pathetic.

The irony level is obviously screaming towards the stratosphere by this
point. But here's what pushes it over the edge. Myers' guest, who
apparently was not recognized and who told this story this morning
was...Richard Dawkins!


Good stuff, eh?

Frackin' hilarious.

The ID scammers are masters at stepping on their own dicks.

"Dan Luke" wrote in
:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:



This was just sent to me by a friend...



You may be aware of a piece of creationist propaganda called
"Expelled:
No Intelligence Allowed." I know at least some of you are familiar
with
a wonderful blog called Pharyngula
(http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/)
written by PZ Myers, a professor of biology at the University of
Minnesota.

So with background out of the way, I got to hear this story... Last
night there was a screening of "Expelled" at the Mall of America.
Attendees had to register in advance for tickets. Myers appears in
the
film and even gets an acknowledgment of gratitude. So he registered,
along with his family and a guest, the guy who told this story.

While waiting in line to sign in for the screening, a cop came up to
Myers and told him he was not going to be allowed to enter. A
producer
had recognized him and told the cops to, well, expel him from the
premises. Apparently his intelligence and scientific knowledge were
not
welcome. Maybe he'd contaminate the vibe or something.

So he went downstairs to the Apple store while his family and guest
went
ahead watched the flick, which by all accounts ranged from laughable
to
pathetic.

The irony level is obviously screaming towards the stratosphere by
this
point. But here's what pushes it over the edge. Myers' guest, who
apparently was not recognized and who told this story this morning
was...Richard Dawkins!


Good stuff, eh?

Frackin' hilarious.

The ID scammers are masters at stepping on their own dicks.


It's incredible. And yet they keep on..

Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:

The irony level is obviously screaming towards the stratosphere by this
point. But here's what pushes it over the edge. Myers' guest, who
apparently was not recognized and who told this story this morning
was...Richard Dawkins!


Good stuff, eh?


It gets even funnier:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2..._misbehave.php