Objective Engine Discussion

Again, please keep answers and suggestions as objective as possible. I
don't want to start religious battles with this thread.

Thank you all for the help.

Rick Maddy


IF, as you say, you don't know "squat" about engines, you'll have a bad time
trying to engineer a custom engine installation. I know it is attractive to
think you can save money on the initial engine cost (or subsequent fuel
cost) by using an alternate engine instead of a lycoming 0-320 or 0-360.
However, if your goal is to build a flying, traveling, airplane, you'll be
happier with the lycoming. You won't have to engineer a custom engine
mount, custom cooling and fuel systems, custom cable routings, custom
electrical system, etc. You won't have to do the follow-on development work
when/if your engineering wasn't quite good enough and the engine didn't run
right on your first test flight. Also, with a lycoming, when it breaks (all
engines and/or systems do - usually in somewhere the other side of
Timbuktu), you will be able to call a dozen different vendors and get THE
part you need Fed-Ex'ed to you the next day.

I have an 0-320 in my RV-6, and missed SnF a couple of years ago because my
neato electronic ignition died the day before the show, and the only guy in
the world with replacement parts was already at the show. I couldn't get in
touch with him to diagnose the problem or have parts shipped. That's the
kind of thing you run into with oddball *critical* equipment on your
airplane...

A fellow EAA'er just spend a YEAR post first flight working out development
issues with his auto conversion. He had the engine and other systems
running on a bench several years before he went flying, and still had plenty
of difficulties. Unless you're a tinkerer, not a flyer, go with a fully
developed engine installation.

KB
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

DAMN, Kyle !!!!
Have I died and gone to heaven? g


Barnyard BOb -- Over 50 years of flight

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 13:48:57 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote:

DAMN, Kyle !!!!
Have I died and gone to heaven? g

Yes on one, no on two.

Ron "Laugh-a while you can, Monkey-Boy!" Wanttaja

DAMN, Kyle !!!!
Have I died and gone to heaven? g

Yes on one, no on two.

Ron "Laugh-a while you can, Monkey-Boy!" Wanttaja
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:02:28 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- wrote:



DAMN, Kyle !!!!
Have I died and gone to heaven? g

Yes on one, no on two.

Ron "Laugh-a while you can, Monkey-Boy!" Wanttaja
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs

I will admit that I was quite disturbed to find myself in agreement with
BOb for once. I'm hoping that means he is becoming more like me and not
the converse
--
Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/
e-mail: khorton02(_at_)rogers(_dot_)com

In article , Barnyard BOb --
writes:


Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs



Don't you dare retire from RAH, who would we have to pick on then?


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

It worked for me, Unk.

John Stricker

"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message
...
Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs

Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs


It worked for me, Unk.

John Stricker
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi nephew John,

Long time no hear.

I wuz thinking of you just yesterday when they
announced on TeeVee that a chopper with
7 souls aboard went down in Columbia MO.
So far, it appears to be a hoax.

P.S.
I'm embarrassed that you caught me cheering for YOUR Chiefs.
However, what a fabulously outstanding feetball game !!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe, it really is time to bow out and leave
the peckerwoods to feed on each other. g


Unk aka Barnyard BOb aka BOb U.

Don't be embarrassed about cheering for my beloved Chiefs. Come out of the
closet once and for all. 8-) You should read the whining by the Donk fans
in the Chief's newsgroup. Priceless.

John "Long lost nephew" Stricker

"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message
...

Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs


It worked for me, Unk.

John Stricker
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi nephew John,

Long time no hear.

I wuz thinking of you just yesterday when they
announced on TeeVee that a chopper with
7 souls aboard went down in Columbia MO.
So far, it appears to be a hoax.

P.S.
I'm embarrassed that you caught me cheering for YOUR Chiefs.
However, what a fabulously outstanding feetball game !!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe, it really is time to bow out and leave
the peckerwoods to feed on each other. g


Unk aka Barnyard BOb aka BOb U.

How come you are not bragging about those feared previously rated
number 7 Jayhawks - Oh ya - you know the ones who are scared to play
any true college teams - so they end up playing sister maries home
for the blind and quadroplegic!

As I recall you won that one when a blind paraplegic blocked a last
second field goal - but alas - ran the wrong way toward the KState
goal - encouraged by 85,000 drunken yahoos with no morals and very
little clean underwear between them!

Check out the saltflats racing association you yahoo. look at the 130
MPH club - you will find 3 generations of Johanssons made it this
year - including the oldest guy to ever do it - my dad - 73 years
old - and the youngest ever - my nephew.

hpe your laying in gruel for the winter you schmuck
Gonzo

PS - I wont reply for 4 days - I'm going elk hunting


On Mon, 6 Oct 2003 16:39:49 -0500, "John Stricker"
wrote:

Don't be embarrassed about cheering for my beloved Chiefs. Come out of the
closet once and for all. 8-) You should read the whining by the Donk fans
in the Chief's newsgroup. Priceless.

John "Long lost nephew" Stricker

"Barnyard BOb --" wrote in message
.. .

Yes, Ron.
Bless Kevin and Kyle for their thoughtful input.

Perhaps it's time to retire from RAH
while I have some positive momentum.

NAH....
No way. ;-)

Barnyard BOb -- 3 cheers for today's Kansas City Chiefs


It worked for me, Unk.

John Stricker
++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Hi nephew John,

Long time no hear.

I wuz thinking of you just yesterday when they
announced on TeeVee that a chopper with
7 souls aboard went down in Columbia MO.
So far, it appears to be a hoax.

P.S.
I'm embarrassed that you caught me cheering for YOUR Chiefs.
However, what a fabulously outstanding feetball game !!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe, it really is time to bow out and leave
the peckerwoods to feed on each other. g


Unk aka Barnyard BOb aka BOb U.

"John Stricker" wrote in message ...
It worked for me, Unk.

Except of course when you air up your "re-tires" for
a drive-by posting

How's the plane building coming along in that gorgeous
shop o' yours? How's Chris's car? and did you finish
your CFI yet?

Cheers,
Sydney