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There's nothing new here. AFAIK, every state has the same policy. You
buy a large ticket item out of state to avoid state sales/use tax and you're liable for the tax when you bring it home. It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... John WJRFlyBoy wrote: http://tinyurl.com/24og9o Read about the bewildering details of a number of long-suffering non-resident pilots who have been caught in the FL tax trap, (otherwise known as the "Florida Landing Fee"). It starts like this... you buy a new or used aircraft and sign the bill of sale... which starts "the clock." It is Florida's position that for the next six months (possibly thereafter, though the burden of proof reportedly changes at that point), the state has the right to exact the requisite "Use Tax" (Sales Tax) for the fact you partook of the state's services unless you can show an equivalent Use or Sales Tax receipt from another state... In other words, for those of you who may have bought a $500K Cessna, Cirrus, Columbia, etc... unless you can prove that you paid the equivalent use tax in another state, you owe the state of Florida some $30K if you visited the state in the first six months of your ownership. Mind you, if your sales/use tax bill comes from a state that exacts LESS tax than Florida, the FL Department of Revenue still expects you to pony up the difference... and if you're from a state that exacts a minimum fee (like the few hundred dollars for owners in South Carolina), they will bill you for the WHOLE difference... and its up to you to fight them on it. No kidding. |
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On 2008-03-22, John Ammeter wrote:
It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... I first heard about this when Phil Boyer mentioned it briefly at the AOPA Pilot's Town Meeting in Charlotte last Tuesday. It's real. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!) Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390 |
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:06:35 GMT, Jay Maynard wrote:
On 2008-03-22, John Ammeter wrote: It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... I first heard about this when Phil Boyer mentioned it briefly at the AOPA Pilot's Town Meeting in Charlotte last Tuesday. It's real. It is very real and is beginning to be a heavily enforced tax source for FL. Money from non constituents, political paradise. |
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"John Ammeter" wrote ...
It's a stretch to say that if you visit Florida you're going to get nailed for this tax. But, given where this item showed up and the author of it, I'm not surprised. Reading the article I'm not surprised to find his normal Sun and Fun bashing... Yup,... I read this article at ANN a few days back and was saddened to think the old Capt Zoom is Back. I had become a fan Jim Campbell's latest effort with Aero-News Net. I visited it several times a week, even beginning to prefer it to AvWeb as a timely info source. I even went over and shook Jim's hand at Hartford AOPA Expo (where I saw him with camera crew in tow), to wish him success with his new Aero TV Video Network. I thought his video coverage at AirVenture was excellent. Unfortunately this Florida Tax article shows his backslide into the nasty side of his Capt Zoom alter ego, where he displays no hesitancy to use his media network against his perceived enemies. I can only assume that shortly before Jim penned that article he had again been denied Media Credentialed Access to Sun-n-Fun. No doubt a harsh reminder of his "ban for life". |
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In article xBgFj.638$Qv5.93@trnddc03, Mike Isaksen says...
Yup,... I read this article at ANN a few days back and was saddened to think the old Capt Zoom is Back. I had become a fan Jim Campbell's latest effort with Aero-News Net. I visited it several times a week, even beginning to prefer it to AvWeb as a timely info source. I even went over and shook Jim's hand at Hartford AOPA Expo (where I saw him with camera crew in tow), to wish him success with his new Aero TV Video Network. I thought his video coverage at AirVenture was excellent. Unfortunately this Florida Tax article shows his backslide into the nasty side of his Capt Zoom alter ego, where he displays no hesitancy to use his media network against his perceived enemies. I can only assume that shortly before Jim penned that article he had again been denied Media Credentialed Access to Sun-n-Fun. No doubt a harsh reminder of his "ban for life". Mike what you just found out is something a lot of us experienced a long time ago ,the Tiger never changes his stripes. It happened the first time when he was with a California based Magazine, he burned bridges and moved East and behaved himself . Then he had a nice magazine for a while and his nasty backside reared it evil vindictive head again and the zoom wars started in earnest. His magazine went bust.He went quiet again and behaved. ANN started and it's just a matter of time before the real zoom shows up aaaanndd He's Baack!! One thing for sure is that when he's acting up in public he's been active behind the scenes. He's still billing advertizers for ads they don't want. What you did when you shook his hand was to encourage him to think that he's justified in his actions.All he needs is one Atta Boy and he's off and running. He's still a phoney .IMHO. Chuck S Credibility it was always about credibility....Chuck S |
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On Mar 23, 10:47*am, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote: In article xBgFj.638$Qv5.93@trnddc03, Mike Isaksen says... Yup,... I read this article at ANN a few days back and was saddened to think the old Capt Zoom is Back. I had become a fan Jim Campbell's latest effort with Aero-News Net. I visited it several times a week, even beginning to prefer it to AvWeb as a timely info source. I even went over and shook Jim's hand at Hartford AOPA Expo (where I saw him with camera crew in tow), to wish him success with his new Aero TV Video Network. I thought his video coverage at AirVenture was excellent. Unfortunately this Florida Tax article shows his backslide into the nasty side of his Capt Zoom alter ego, where he displays no hesitancy to use his media network against his perceived enemies. I can only assume that shortly before Jim penned that article he had again been denied Media Credentialed Access to Sun-n-Fun. No doubt a harsh reminder of his "ban for life". Mike what you just found out is something a lot of us experienced a long time ago ,the Tiger never changes his stripes. It happened the first time when he was with a California based Magazine, he burned bridges and moved East and behaved himself . Then he had a nice magazine for a while and his nasty backside reared it evil vindictive head again and the zoom wars started in earnest. His magazine went bust.He went quiet again and behaved. ANN started and it's just a matter of time before the real zoom shows up aaaanndd He's Baack!! One thing for sure *is that when he's acting up in public he's been active behind the scenes. He's still billing advertizers for ads they don't want. What you did when you shook his hand was to encourage him to think that he's justified in his actions.All he needs is one Atta Boy and he's off and running. He's still a phoney .IMHO. Chuck S Credibility it was always about credibility....Chuck S Hey Chuck!!! This latest line of zzzoom B.S. is one of those deals that just don't add up. Can you imagine Netjets or some outfit like that flying a new Gulfstream into Florida to pick up a charter and get that tax bill. Maybe the state should just post a tax collector at each gate at MIA and bill American every time they taxi in a new 777. I liked the part toward the end of his rant about SnF inflating their visitor count. I remember when the worthless ******* sued me (I won). He stated under oath that he had in excess of 45,000 paid subscribers to his so called magazine most believe it was closer to maybe 4,000 or less. This is just his latest ploy to stick it to SnF for barring him from the show. You can about set your watch by his annual anti- Sun n Fun rant. Frank M.Hitlaw at my Secret World Hq |
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On Mar 23, 3:44*pm, Peter Clark
wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:34:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote: This latest line of zzzoom B.S. is one of those deals that just don't add up. Can you imagine Netjets or some outfit like that flying a new Gulfstream into Florida to pick up a charter and get that tax bill. Maybe the state should just post a tax collector at each gate at MIA and bill American every time they taxi in a new 777. I liked the part toward the end of his rant about SnF inflating their visitor count. I remember when the worthless ******* sued me (I won). He stated under oath that he had in excess of 45,000 paid subscribers to his so called magazine most believe it was closer to maybe 4,000 or less. This is just his latest ploy to stick it to SnF for barring him from the show. You can about set your watch by his annual anti- Sun n Fun rant. *Frank M.Hitlaw at my Secret World Hq He might have a not-so-secret agenda, but wanna tell the Meridian owner who got a $100,000+ tax bill when he showed up at SimCom for a week that it's all in this guy's head?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got a notion that there is more to this than meets the eye. What if the guy bought the plane in Florida, he would owe the sales taxes on it. I can think of other scenarios that could cause this to happen. I don't know but I am very skeptical of anything that comes from campbell. So far we have only heard one side of this story. Frank M.Hitlaw at my Secret World Hq |
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On Mar 23, 5:39*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 3:44*pm, Peter Clark wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:34:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote: This latest line of zzzoom B.S. is one of those deals that just don't add up. Can you imagine Netjets or some outfit like that flying a new Gulfstream into Florida to pick up a charter and get that tax bill. Maybe the state should just post a tax collector at each gate at MIA and bill American every time they taxi in a new 777. I liked the part toward the end of his rant about SnF inflating their visitor count. I remember when the worthless ******* sued me (I won). He stated under oath that he had in excess of 45,000 paid subscribers to his so called magazine most believe it was closer to maybe 4,000 or less. This is just his latest ploy to stick it to SnF for barring him from the show. You can about set your watch by his annual anti- Sun n Fun rant. *Frank M.Hitlaw at my Secret World Hq He might have a not-so-secret agenda, but wanna tell the Meridian owner who got a $100,000+ tax bill when he showed up at SimCom for a week that it's all in this guy's head?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I got a notion that there is more to this than meets the eye. What if the guy bought the plane in Florida, he would owe the sales taxes on it. I can think of other scenarios that could cause this to happen. I don't know but I am very skeptical of anything that comes from campbell. So far we have only heard one side of this story. Frank M.Hitlaw at my Secret World Hq- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Specific Exemptions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An aircraft may be purchased tax-exempt if it is sold by or through a registered dealer to a nonresident purchaser who will remove the aircraft from this state. Within 5 days of the date of sale, the dealer must provide DOR with a copy of the invoice, bill of sale, and/ or closing statement; and the original, signed, removal affidavit. Tax will not be due if either of the following requirements are met: The aircraft must be removed from Florida within 10 days from the date of sale. If the aircraft needs repairs, additions, or alterations, it must immediately be placed in a repair facility registered with DOR and removed from Florida within 20 days from the date the work is complete. The purchaser must also meet these requirements: Sign an affidavit attesting that the purchaser has read the applicable rules and law regarding the exemption claimed and will timely remove the aircraft as required. Within 10 days of removal, furnish DOR with proof that the aircraft left Florida (submit copies of receipts for fuel charges, tie-down charges, or repair or hangar charges from outside Florida). Within 30 days of departure, furnish DOR with written proof that the aircraft was licensed, registered, titled, and hangared outside Florida. This exemption does not apply to sales to Florida residents, corporations whose officers or directors are Florida residents, or other entities whose controlling individual is a Florida resident. ========================== Seems the specific exemptions are fairly clear. Based on these, there should be no reason for fear to those going to Sun-N-Fun. |
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