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Old March 30th 08, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Doug Hoffman[_2_]
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

I wrote:
Yes. Two inspections are required. And the "normal" annual
inspection by your mechanic must be done within 30 days prior to
the DAR inspection. I went through this when I imported a glider
from Canada. I don't recall being confused or surprised by this
requirement. Maybe my DAR emphasized it when we spoke on the
phone.


Sorry, I should have given more detail. The first inspection by your
mechanic will be the same kind of mechanical/functional "annual"
inspection one normally gets. The DAR, at least in my case, will be
looking for different things. This included at least the following: Was
the "EXPERIMENTAL" signage adequate? Did the compass have a calibration
card to go with? Was the N-number installed correctly? Was there a
proper manufacturer's placard affixed in the glider? Was all of the
paperwork for the glider in order? I think there may have been more but
I don't recall just now.

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Old March 31st 08, 05:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
raulb
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

On Mar 30, 2:43*pm, Doug Hoffman no.spam wrote:
I wrote:
Yes. *Two inspections are required. *And the "normal" annual
inspection by your mechanic must be done within 30 days prior to
the DAR inspection. *I went through this when I imported a glider
from Canada. *I don't recall being confused or surprised by this
requirement. *Maybe my DAR emphasized it when we spoke on the
phone.


There has to be an airworthiness inspection AND an annual inspection.

An AI, A&P, or DAR may disagree with me but as I recall, the
airworthiness inspection will include a weight and balance, assurances
that all of the ADs have been complied with, make certain that all of
the paperwork is done, make sure you have the proper instruments (no
metric), and an initial complete inspection which is more through than
an annual will be done. The annual can be made as part of this
airworthiness inspection, but must be entered in the log book
separately.

Just putting an "EXPERIMENTAL" sticker on the glider does not mean
that it is "EXPERIMENTAL." You have to have an FAA issued
Airworthiness Certificate which says that it is either "Experimental
Racing" or "Experimental Exhibition." You also have to have filed
the limitations (mine say that I can only fly the glider in a contest
or preparing for a contest, but other gliders have more restrictive
limitations) with the FAA and put a copy in the glider. Is the
"EXPERIMENTAL" sticker the proper size and located in a proper
location, ditto the "N" numbers.

There are other things checked during the initial airworthiness
inspection, but you have pretty much covered them in your question.

All the DAR should have to do is shuffle papers and charge you too
much for doing it.


Sorry, I should have given more detail. *The first inspection by your
mechanic will be the same kind of mechanical/functional "annual"
inspection one normally gets. *The DAR, at least in my case, will be
looking for different things. *This included at least the following: Was
the "EXPERIMENTAL" signage adequate? *Did the compass have a calibration
card to go with? *Was the N-number installed correctly? *Was there a
proper manufacturer's placard affixed in the glider? *Was all of the
paperwork for the glider in order? *I think there may have been more but
I don't recall just now.

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-Doug


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Old March 31st 08, 02:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tuno
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

Thanks Doug and Raulb, and P3 who answered by e-mail. My DAR looked
for everything mentioned and has the (new) paperwork pretty much in
order, I just lost a week because I didn't know a condition inspection
was required first.

Where does one get "EXPERIMENTAL" decals? If I have to go to FastSigns
they'll misspell it, just like they did 2UNO.

~tuno
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Old March 31st 08, 03:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

On Mar 31, 6:39*am, Tuno wrote:
Where does one get "EXPERIMENTAL" decals? If I have to go to FastSigns
they'll misspell it, just like they did 2UNO.



I printed my own and covered it with clear shelf paper. It's looking
a bit tired after 5 years but it was good enough at the time. The
minimum height must be met but there seems to be no limitation on
character width. I've seen some creative narrow fonts used to reduce
the placard length.

BTW I was talking with a DAR last week while he was waiting to get all
the paperwork to issue an experimental ticket on a large transport
category aircraft. He was an ex FAA inspector but he assured me there
was no regulation that required all DAR's to have been FAA
inspectors.

Andy
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Old March 31st 08, 03:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wayne Paul
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question


"Tuno" wrote in message
...
Thanks Doug and Raulb, and P3 who answered by e-mail. My DAR looked
for everything mentioned and has the (new) paperwork pretty much in
order, I just lost a week because I didn't know a condition inspection
was required first.

Where does one get "EXPERIMENTAL" decals? If I have to go to FastSigns
they'll misspell it, just like they did 2UNO.

~tuno


Wings and Wheels http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page38.htm

Wayne
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Old March 31st 08, 08:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Andy[_1_]
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

On Mar 31, 7:30*am, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
Wings and Wheelshttp://www.wingsandwheels.com/page38.htm


I'm all in favor of supporting our few soaring goods suppliers but it
appears you can get 2 from this vendor for a much lower price.

http://www.sportflyingshop.com/Placards/placards.html
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Old April 1st 08, 07:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Doug Hoffman
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

Tuno wrote:


Where does one get "EXPERIMENTAL" decals? If I have to go to
FastSigns
they'll misspell it, just like they did


Hardware sto mailbox decals. That way you can misspell it
yourself. :-)

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Old April 1st 08, 05:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tuno
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

Ha. I picked up a set of 2" decals at Office Depot on the way home
today, then read my e-mail and found out my dealer had sent me a
sticker, then the A&P showed up, and he had one with him. When it
rains, it pours!

Sticker, check; condition inspection, check. Wow ... I may actually
get to fly her this Friday!

2U^HNO

ps BIG thank you to A&P and Zuni and Citation pilot Bryce Sammeter,
who followed this adventure online and volunteered to drive 80 miles
round trip to help me out!
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Old April 2nd 08, 01:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
BT
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question

Tuno.. who was the DAR that did the airworthy for you..
pvt email is ok
BT

"Tuno" wrote in message
...
Ha. I picked up a set of 2" decals at Office Depot on the way home
today, then read my e-mail and found out my dealer had sent me a
sticker, then the A&P showed up, and he had one with him. When it
rains, it pours!

Sticker, check; condition inspection, check. Wow ... I may actually
get to fly her this Friday!

2U^HNO

ps BIG thank you to A&P and Zuni and Citation pilot Bryce Sammeter,
who followed this adventure online and volunteered to drive 80 miles
round trip to help me out!



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Old April 2nd 08, 08:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default (USA) New glider inspections question


Tuno,

Happy to help anytime, I knew you were in a pinch and it would not
have been right not to help.

Feel free to spread the word around the area as it looks good on my IA
application........not to mention I'm pretty available as a "Slacker
Pilot" and only work every other week.
 




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