Just Bought A Plane? STAY OUT OF FLORIDA !

On 2008-04-03, Ron Wanttaja wrote:
3. EAA and AOPA's messages are a reaction is due to their *member's* concerns,
not an indicator as to how serious the threat to Sun-N-Fun really was. If the
subject is at least *possible*, they're going to respond to it if enough of
their members ask. And as AvWeb has pointed out, Florida is not the first state
to institute this sort of policy.

Indeed. OTOH, both organizations are going to try to debunk it before
publishing. They didn't, or else they'd have said so.

Jim Campbell has been printing or posting an annual anti-SnF rant every March
for over ten years now, and having just lost his second lawsuit against them
probably hasn't improved his attitude. He also just got nailed by the Florida
tax folks for a tax lien dating back to the US Aviator days. I suspect the
opportunity to slam both SnF and the Florida tax folks was heaven-sent.

Undoubtedly. That doesn't make it automatically wrong, as several folks here
suggest.
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In article , Jay Maynard says...
Jim Campbell has been printing or posting an annual anti-SnF rant every March
for over ten years now, and having just lost his second lawsuit against them
probably hasn't improved his attitude. He also just got nailed by the Florida
tax folks for a tax lien dating back to the US Aviator days. I suspect the
opportunity to slam both SnF and the Florida tax folks was heaven-sent.

Undoubtedly. That doesn't make it automatically wrong, as several folks here
suggest.

Nobody is saying he's automatically wrong what we're saying is that many times
what zoom says is suspect as to details ,motive and spin. He will never hesitate
to use the power of the press to promote his agenda. There is a kernel of truth
in this story which could have stood on it's own as it did months ago.

Now as he usually does he prints the story with enough facts to seem
truthful,adds spin to obfuscate the facts ,confuse the details and then promote
his anti Sun n Fun agenda.

So far I've seen "one" case detailing a problem ,hardly an epidemic, some
confusion from a couple of alphabet orgs, a clarification from the President of
Sun n Fun who has more at stake then any of the aforementioned orgs ,stating the
SnF will not be targeted by the tax guys.
When it comes to credibility zoom is as truthful as a politician.

I'm going to be there with a booth and I bet no one will be cited for taxes
..Wanna bet? :-)

Chuck S

On 3 Apr 2008 05:58:53 -0700, ChuckSlusarczyk
wrote:

In article , Jay Maynard says...
Jim Campbell has been printing or posting an annual anti-SnF rant every March
for over ten years now, and having just lost his second lawsuit against them
probably hasn't improved his attitude. He also just got nailed by the Florida
tax folks for a tax lien dating back to the US Aviator days. I suspect the
opportunity to slam both SnF and the Florida tax folks was heaven-sent.

Undoubtedly. That doesn't make it automatically wrong, as several folks here
suggest.

Nobody is saying he's automatically wrong what we're saying is that many times
what zoom says is suspect as to details ,motive and spin. He will never hesitate
to use the power of the press to promote his agenda. There is a kernel of truth
in this story which could have stood on it's own as it did months ago.

Now as he usually does he prints the story with enough facts to seem
truthful,adds spin to obfuscate the facts ,confuse the details and then promote
his anti Sun n Fun agenda.

So far I've seen "one" case detailing a problem ,hardly an epidemic, some
confusion from a couple of alphabet orgs, a clarification from the President of
Sun n Fun who has more at stake then any of the aforementioned orgs ,stating the
SnF will not be targeted by the tax guys.
When it comes to credibility zoom is as truthful as a politician.

I'm going to be there with a booth and I bet no one will be cited for taxes
.Wanna bet? :-)

Chuck S
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Chuck

One. You'd never collect if you won because right is always wrong for
some people.

Two. I thought you had learned through your years on this News Group,
never argue with an Idiot.

Big John

On 2008-04-03, ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
Nobody is saying he's automatically wrong what we're saying is that many
times what zoom says is suspect as to details ,motive and spin. He will
never hesitate to use the power of the press to promote his agenda. There
is a kernel of truth in this story which could have stood on it's own as
it did months ago.

None of this matters in the slightest. It's not Zoom's story any more, if
indeed it ever was.

Now as he usually does he prints the story with enough facts to seem
truthful,adds spin to obfuscate the facts ,confuse the details and then
promote his anti Sun n Fun agenda.

I don't care. I'm not getting my information from Zoom, and all of this
anti-Zoom argumentation has exactly zero to do with the story.

So far I've seen "one" case detailing a problem ,hardly an epidemic, some
confusion from a couple of alphabet orgs, a clarification from the President of
Sun n Fun who has more at stake then any of the aforementioned orgs ,stating the
SnF will not be targeted by the tax guys.
When it comes to credibility zoom is as truthful as a politician.

Yet you seem to believe the Florida tax people, even though they're as bad
as politicians.

I'm going to be there with a booth and I bet no one will be cited for
.taxes Wanna bet? :-)

I'd love to be there and see for myself, but I'm going to be working, darn
it. In any event, I'm not the one running the risk. If you think the risk is
acceptable, then go, have fun, and make money, with my blessings (not like
you need them, but still...).

My roommate's dad is going to SnF. I may well go there myself next year,
with airplane. (By then, I'll have paid Minnesota's use tax, which is higher
than what Florida charges, so I'll be immune even if this does prove to be
real.) I understand it's a great time. I hope Florida does come to its
senses and casts into law and regulation that they will only attempt to
collect tax from Florida residents. Until that time, considering the risk
that they will try to collect tax from nonresidents with shiny new airplanes
is merely prudent.
--
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