ping Dan Thomas/weird crashes.

wrote in news:62496d5b-5983-4be0-8f72-
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On Apr 2, 7:28 pm, Big John wrote:

Anyone who follows nothing more than a whiskey compass and a
barometer in IMC is going to die real soon.

Dan

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Dan

Some of us learned to fly IFR using needle, ball and airspeed (plus
whisky compass and altimeter).

Big John

Yup. I did that during IFR training, too. Need a watch with a
second hand, too, or stopwatch. Not much fun, but necessary. Surely
you didn't routinely fly actual IMC in airplanes having just those
instruments?


I have done. Legally too!


Bertie

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
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On Apr 2, 8:04 pm, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:
"Big John" wrote in message

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Dan

Some of us learned to fly IFR using needle, ball and airspeed (plus
whisky compass and altimeter).

Big John

Was that because you learned to fly before electricity was
discovered? :~0

LOL: One can be IFR rated by turning on the Auto-
Pilot switch, and dial the cell-phone for directions.
All them fancy dials is a sales pitch.

Yes Kennie, why on't you go out and try that right after you try flying
IMC using the E2 compass?

Bertie

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
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On Apr 2, 3:43 pm, "Private" wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in
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That all works for a 1/2 ass pilot, however if the cabin
pressure had a slow leak, and the pilot slowly looses
mental faculties, (Bertie is a typical example), that
could lead to pilot confusion.
Ken

Check YOUR cabin, it seems to be leaking, and not slowly.
...
IDIOT :-)


Good one there kennie. You really got him good.

Bertie

Big John wrote:


Some of us learned to fly IFR using needle, ball and airspeed (plus
whisky compass and altimeter).

Many still do, in the partial panel section of most courses.

I shot a full VOR approach, including two trips around a hold, on my IFR
checkride, with a simulated vacuum failure. Turns were made with my
whiskey compass and clock. I still had pitot-static instruments for
pitch and altitude information.

On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 21:04:05 -0700, "Matt W. Barrow"
wrote:

"Big John" wrote in message
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Dan

Some of us learned to fly IFR using needle, ball and airspeed (plus
whisky compass and altimeter).

Big John

Was that because you learned to fly before electricity was discovered? :~0

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Matt

Almost )

Big John

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 07:35:11 -0400, B A R R Y
wrote:

Big John wrote:


Some of us learned to fly IFR using needle, ball and airspeed (plus
whisky compass and altimeter).

Many still do, in the partial panel section of most courses.

I shot a full VOR approach, including two trips around a hold, on my IFR
checkride, with a simulated vacuum failure. Turns were made with my
whiskey compass and clock. I still had pitot-static instruments for
pitch and altitude information.
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Barry

Glad you got the training and demonstrated proficiency.

Even with today's 'equipment', GOOD insurance to have for that one
time.

Big John