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Jay, if your only alternative to keep flying was to drop, say, $40K
into a diesel conversion for Atlas, would you? Nope. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:TlXKj.112166
$yE1.82115@attbi_s21: Jay, if your only alternative to keep flying was to drop, say, $40K into a diesel conversion for Atlas, would you? Nope. Well, there you are. Dummer'n dirt. Bertie |
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![]() .... Jay, if your only alternative to keep flying was to drop, say, $40K into a diesel conversion for Atlas, would you? Jay's only choice would be the 235hp SMA diesel for about $100,000 firewall forward. And I don't think they've made any progress toward an STC for his PA28 model, so Jay would have to "transfer" into an Experimental Certificate. Seeing as Jay has expressed his opinion on the government bureaucracy rather strongly, I'd suspect his head would explode going down that road. ;-) |
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"Mike Isaksen" wrote in
news:ATwLj.9840$Ug4.1603@trndny01: ... Jay, if your only alternative to keep flying was to drop, say, $40K into a diesel conversion for Atlas, would you? Jay's only choice would be the 235hp SMA diesel for about $100,000 firewall forward. And I don't think they've made any progress toward an STC for his PA28 model, so Jay would have to "transfer" into an Experimental Certificate. Seeing as Jay has expressed his opinion on the government bureaucracy rather strongly, I'd suspect his head would explode going down that road. ;-) At least it would be open then. Bertie |
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On Apr 8, 8:44 am, wrote:
I heard a blurb on NPR the other day that it's mandated by the feds for the summer to lessen polution. There seems to be so many misinformation about ethanol in fuel. A little Google search shows: * ethanol was first introduced in larger scale in gasoline as an oxygenate back in 1990s, the RFG program, to reduce the CO emission mostly in winter in some metro areas. On carburated auto engines ethanol has the effect of leaning out the mixture - hence reducing the CO emission especially when the engine is cold. This effect is mostly irrelevant now that vast majority of the cars have electronic ignition and automatic mixture control. * The oil companies didn't like ethanol because 1. it can't be transported in pipelines and 2. they didn't control its production. They prefer MTBE, an oxygenate produced from petroleum. EPA at the time didn't care whether MTBE and ethanol is being used. * MTBE was later found to be contaminating ground water, and the congress in 2005(6?) denied MTBE producer's request for a liability waver. As a result, MTBE as an oxygenate was completely phased out about two years ago and all areas designated as "non-attainment" areas by EPA must use ethanol as oxygenate, which triggered the first large scale shortage of ethanol and a big price run-up. * In the mean time, some states have passed various laws mandating ethanol blending in gasoline. The exact requirement can be very different from state to state. * In 2004, Congress passed the law to give 51 cent per gallon subsidy for pure ethanol (and proportional tax credit for various % of blend). * In 2007, Congress passed the law (and Bush signed it) to require a rapidly increase of renewable fuel by 2022 (See http://www.ethanol.org/index.php?id=78&parentid=26 for the schedule). For the first few years this would come almost entirely from corn ethanol. This misguided effort resulted in a huge increase of corn price, food price - particular meats, and ethanol price in 2007 when 20% of the entire U.S. corn production was turned into ethanol - which was merely the first year of the schedule (see http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ne...G=Search+News). Interestingly enough, even with 51c a gallon tax credit ethanol producers have been barely turning a profit lately due to this huge run-up of corn price, and this is merely the beginning. To produce 15 billion gallons of corn ethanol a year it would probably require more than 50% of the entire U.S. corn harvest, a situation that's highly unlikely to occur. If you think $3/dozen eggs is expensive, imagine $10/dozen eggs - that's what'll happen if we produce anywhere near 15 billion gallons of corn ethanol a year. * Even though the 2007 law requires a massive increase of ethanol blending in gasoline, it didn't exactly specify that each gallon of gasoline must contain certain percentage of ethanol. The oil companies are free to blend ethanol in some areas and not other areas , or to blend in regular gas but not premium, etc, etc - subject to state by state regulations. My point is? This ethanol madness totally sucks, but the hard reality has begun to set in. Just wait for another year when the food price totally shoot through the roof, something will change. I have already seen the news coverage regarding corn ethanol turning largely negative in the last month or so. |
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seen the news coverage regarding corn ethanol turning largely negative in the last month or so. Me, too -- and that is a VERY good thing. Although my fellow Iowans vehemently disagree, naturally. The change from "poverty-stricken" to "millionaires" has been a good one for farmers. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:Am6Lj.59611$TT4.49906@attbi_s22: I have already seen the news coverage regarding corn ethanol turning largely negative in the last month or so. Me, too -- and that is a VERY good thing. How the **** would you know, you moron? you don't know the first thing about any aspect of energy. Although my fellow Iowans vehemently disagree, naturally. The change from "poverty-stricken" to "millionaires" has been a good one for farmers. You're an idiot. Bertie |
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On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 01:37:02 -0700 (PDT), M wrote:
* MTBE was later found to be contaminating ground water, and the congress in 2005(6?) denied MTBE producer's request for a liability waver. Democrats paying their debts to the plaintiffs' bar! The same thing is happening to the telephone companies, which will no longer cooperative with the Feds looking for terrorist chat because the (Democratic) Congress won't give them immunity from lawsuits for so cooperating. Blue skies! -- Dan Ford Claire Chennault and His American Volunteers, 1941-1942 new from HarperCollins www.FlyingTigersBook.com |
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