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The ethanol nightmare has arrived!



 
 
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Old April 11th 08, 05:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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The electric automobile will remain insignificant until battery technology
is greatly improved. I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.


No basket will hold all the eggs. Diversified energy production/use will be
the key, IMO.

Battery technology is still in the middle of a revolution. Check on what's
coming with nano-tech supercapacitors, too.


As for bio-diesel from algae, that was said about corn ethenol; we'll
see.


Indeed. But the yield/acre for oil algae is far more promising than corn
ethanol, which was never a good idea unless you are a corn farmer.


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Old April 11th 08, 06:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dan Luke wrote:

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The electric automobile will remain insignificant until battery technology
is greatly improved. I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.


No basket will hold all the eggs. Diversified energy production/use will be
the key, IMO.


Battery technology is still in the middle of a revolution. Check on what's
coming with nano-tech supercapacitors, too.


I have; by any way you measure it, supercapacitors have far less energy
capacity then chemical batteries and basic physics says it will allways
be that way.

Also, capacitors make the charging circuitry god awful complex at high
power levels.

As for bio-diesel from algae, that was said about corn ethenol; we'll
see.


Indeed. But the yield/acre for oil algae is far more promising than corn
ethanol, which was never a good idea unless you are a corn farmer.


Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

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Old April 11th 08, 06:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft needs....
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Old April 11th 08, 07:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium
would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft needs....


Belgium is pretty small! Also if belgium turned it's lights out once in
a while it'd be a huge start! You can see the place from all over
europe! I've been told it's because it's easier than adjusting the
output on their nukes every night. You'd think they;'d just sell a bit
to France or Germany, though.


Bertie
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Old April 11th 08, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Blueskies wrote:

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

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Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft needs....


Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the bucket.


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Old April 11th 08, 10:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

--
Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft
needs....


Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the bucket.


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Jim Pennino

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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...


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Old April 11th 08, 10:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Blueskies wrote:

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Blueskies wrote:

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

--
Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft
needs....


Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the bucket.


--
Jim Pennino

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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...


You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction equipment?

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Old April 12th 08, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Blueskies wrote:

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Blueskies wrote:

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Avacados give a higher yield/acre then corn.

Unless the intent was to subsidize corn farmers, corn is about the
worst thing one could pick.

--
Jim Pennino

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Bio diesel from seaweed...read an article an area the size of Belgium would be sufficient to fuel all aircraft
needs....

Well, that's discouraging since aircraft needs are a drop in the bucket.


--
Jim Pennino

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Maybe, but we can run just about everything else on electricity...


You mean like trucks, trains, busses and farm and construction equipment?

--
Jim Pennino



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