More fuel for thought

On Apr 15, 11:52*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

While I agree that alternate forms of energy are a very good thing for
very many reasons there is no reason to do anything at this point that
will trash the world economy because there is still several metric
butt-loads of crude out there.

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy. But I think now is the time to devote some serious resources
to find alternative, sustainable ways to keep our societies running.
If we wait until the end is clearly in sight, we probably won't be
able to afford to spend the resources it will take to solve the
problem.

If you want to get some good perspective on this kind of thing, read
the book Collapse by Jared Diamond. It's a very clear-eyed, down-to-
earth analysis of why past societies have flourished, but then
ultimately collapsed. Over and over again in human history, societies
have over-used their natural resources until they suffered a
catastrophic collapse. This is the rule, not the exception. It is
very rare in human history for a society to live in a way that is
sustainable over the long term. Clearly, our current society is not
sustainable, and if we ignore history we will be condemned to repeat
it.

Phil

Phil J wrote:
On Apr 15, 11:52 am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
While I agree that alternate forms of energy are a very good thing for
very many reasons there is no reason to do anything at this point that
will trash the world economy because there is still several metric
butt-loads of crude out there.

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.

There are lot's of Greens out there that would do exactly that and if
the truth were known they would be happy about it. These are the same
people that were pro-USSR prior to the 90s. They are watermelons. Green
on the outside and red on the inside. That is a friend of mine's
favorite saying. He probably got it from Rush but it is a pretty good
description.

On Apr 15, 2:47*pm, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.

There are lot's of Greens out there that would do exactly that and if
the truth were known they would be happy about it. These are the same
people that were pro-USSR prior to the 90s. They are watermelons. Green
on the outside and red on the inside. That is a friend of mine's
favorite saying. He probably got it from Rush but it is a pretty good
description.

Really? How many Communist Greens have you met that wanted to trash
the world's economy?

Phil

"Phil J" wrote in message
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On Apr 15, 2:47 pm, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.

There are lot's of Greens out there that would do exactly that and if
the truth were known they would be happy about it. These are the same
people that were pro-USSR prior to the 90s. They are watermelons. Green
on the outside and red on the inside. That is a friend of mine's
favorite saying. He probably got it from Rush but it is a pretty good
description.

: Really? How many Communist Greens have you met that wanted to trash
: the world's economy?

All of them.

Phil J wrote:
On Apr 15, 2:47 pm, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.
There are lot's of Greens out there that would do exactly that and if
the truth were known they would be happy about it. These are the same
people that were pro-USSR prior to the 90s. They are watermelons. Green
on the outside and red on the inside. That is a friend of mine's
favorite saying. He probably got it from Rush but it is a pretty good
description.

Really? How many Communist Greens have you met that wanted to trash
the world's economy?

Phil


Which ones don't?

On Apr 16, 9:28*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Phil J wrote:
On Apr 15, 2:47 pm, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.
There are lot's of Greens out there that would do exactly that and if
the truth were known they would be happy about it. These are the same
people that were pro-USSR prior to the 90s. They are watermelons. Green
on the outside and red on the inside. That is a friend of mine's
favorite saying. He probably got it from Rush but it is a pretty good
description.

Really? *How many Communist Greens have you met that wanted to trash
the world's economy?

Phil

Which ones don't?


Yeah, I never actually met any of them either, but I try not to get
confused by "reality". Rush says it so I know it's true. He also
says those evil Greens like to kill and eat babies. Isn't it great to
have Rush to tell us what to think??

Phil

Phil J wrote in
:

On Apr 16, 9:28*am, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:
Phil J wrote:
On Apr 15, 2:47 pm, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote:

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.
There are lot's of Greens out there that would do exactly that and
if the truth were known they would be happy about it. These are
the same people that were pro-USSR prior to the 90s. They are
watermelons. Green

on the outside and red on the inside. That is a friend of mine's
favorite saying. He probably got it from Rush but it is a pretty
good description.

Really? *How many Communist Greens have you met that wanted to
trash the world's economy?

Phil

Which ones don't?


Yeah, I never actually met any of them either, but I try not to get
confused by "reality". Rush says it so I know it's true. He also
says those evil Greens like to kill and eat babies. Isn't it great to
have Rush to tell us what to think??

Phil




I thank God for him every day.


Bertie

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 10:43:01 -0700 (PDT), Phil J wrote:

I don't know of anyone who is suggesting that we trash the world
economy.


Talk radio "environmentalist" strawmen say it all the time.

That's why it shows up here.


But I think now is the time to devote some serious resources
to find alternative, sustainable ways to keep our societies running.
If we wait until the end is clearly in sight, we probably won't be
able to afford to spend the resources it will take to solve the
problem.

If you want to get some good perspective on this kind of thing, read
the book Collapse by Jared Diamond. It's a very clear-eyed, down-to-
earth analysis of why past societies have flourished, but then
ultimately collapsed. Over and over again in human history, societies
have over-used their natural resources until they suffered a
catastrophic collapse. This is the rule, not the exception. It is
very rare in human history for a society to live in a way that is
sustainable over the long term. Clearly, our current society is not
sustainable, and if we ignore history we will be condemned to repeat
it.


You're just one of those whacko alarmists.

Everything will be fine if we just keep doing things the same way we
always have.

Don't worry; be happy!