High altitude Helicopter work

On 19 Nov 2003 18:32:38 -0800, (The
Enlightenment) wrote:

The French built a High Altitide Helicopter called the Aerospatiale
SA-315B Lama. Hovered at 17000 ft. It was for the Indian Airforce.

I think this airplane ended up being used on Denali by the US Forestry
Service rescue folks. I read a book by a woman who had climbed Denali
at the time of a rescue effort and she mentioned seeing this helo. If
only I could find the book again--the only thing I remember is that
she used both her first and middle names, which isn't much help when
trying to track a book down on Amazon.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Mary Shafer wrote in message . ..
On 19 Nov 2003 18:32:38 -0800, (The
Enlightenment) wrote:

The French built a High Altitide Helicopter called the Aerospatiale
SA-315B Lama. Hovered at 17000 ft. It was for the Indian Airforce.

I think this airplane ended up being used on Denali by the US Forestry
Service rescue folks. I read a book by a woman who had climbed Denali
at the time of a rescue effort and she mentioned seeing this helo. If
only I could find the book again--the only thing I remember is that
she used both her first and middle names, which isn't much help when
trying to track a book down on Amazon.

Mary

One of the targets or challenges for Helicopter designers should be an
out of ground effect hover of 30,000 feet with a usefull load (1
stetcher patient and medical orderly). This in theory would allow
landing on Everest.

In a world of bizzare records this must be one of the more usefull
quests as it would allow helicopter rescue anywhere.

Can Steve Fosset or Richard Branson be interested?

The other quests is some sort of ducted fan platform that can hover
along side buildings or land in very confined urban environemnts. We
need to be able to land on a suburban main road or city road.
Helicopters can't do it because of rotor clearence and safety issues
while ambulences can't do it because of traffic.

To save peoples lives you must get there within 10-15 minutes.

I am suprised that this hasn't been achieved. The Pieseki flying
Jeeps worked although they couldn't land on uneven ground or in high
gusts.

When modified with modern quadraplex fly by wire controls and
stability augmentation systems (accelerometers and solid state MEMS
and laser gyros), modern gas turbines and lighter modern materials
they must surely be able to solve the problems of the earlier Pieseki
Jeeps.

Modern 3rd Generation Cellphones will have "location serivices".
Imagine being able to load emergency call coordinates into the
naviagation system of such an air-ambulance jeep. A rooftop in a
small hospital could provide a takeoff to touchdown response of 5
minutes out to 10 miles.

That even makes economic sense. If every city in the USA with more
than 1 million people had one of these what would the market be?

Mary, Amazon has 150,000 books in digital form so a text search can be made. I
don't know if the system is online yet but they are aiming for over a million
books. They think it will be the best way to sell books ever, and they may be
right.

-- Charlie Springer

On 21 Nov 2003 03:58:25 GMT, (Regnirps) wrote:

Mary, Amazon has 150,000 books in digital form so a text search can be made. I
don't know if the system is online yet but they are aiming for over a million
books. They think it will be the best way to sell books ever, and they may be
right.

They well could be, I think. However, I'm not interested enough in
the Lama helo to go to any effort to find the book.

The book I would like to find is too old, and too insignificant, to
ever show up in digital form on Amazon. It's a schlocky story about a
bunch of fighter pilots, flying F-15s out of Langley AFB, I think,
with some sort of contrived drama and happy ending. The reason I'd
like to find it is the description of the "dead bug" game, which I
think was a "dead Klingon" version. The author's first name may have
been "Maggie" and the title may have had "Eagle(s)" in it. Or maybe
not. I don't expect to ever find this book, obviously.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

"Mary Shafer" wrote

The book I would like to find is too old, and too insignificant, to
ever show up in digital form on Amazon. It's a schlocky story about a
bunch of fighter pilots, flying F-15s out of Langley AFB, I think,
with some sort of contrived drama and happy ending. The reason I'd
like to find it is the description of the "dead bug" game, which I
think was a "dead Klingon" version. The author's first name may have
been "Maggie" and the title may have had "Eagle(s)" in it. Or maybe
not. I don't expect to ever find this book, obviously.

Mary

Might this be it:
http://www.maggiedavis.com/file/eaglesinfo.html

http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook1127.htm
Maggie Davis - Eagles 1980
[excerpt]
"Ladies and gentlemen," a voice said from the overhead loudspeakers, "on
your right you will see the F-15 Eagle, the Air Force's new supersonic air
superiority fighter, taxiing to the runway for takeoff. In a few minutes,
the F-15 will perform a thrilling flight demonstration to illustrate to all
of us here today this remarkable aircraft's capabilities."

available in various forms of eBook for $7

Pete
embrace the google maggie+eagle+f-15 = the above link

"Pete" wrote:


"Mary Shafer" wrote

The book I would like to find is too old, and too insignificant, to
ever show up in digital form on Amazon. It's a schlocky story about a
bunch of fighter pilots, flying F-15s out of Langley AFB, I think,
with some sort of contrived drama and happy ending. The reason I'd
like to find it is the description of the "dead bug" game, which I
think was a "dead Klingon" version. The author's first name may have
been "Maggie" and the title may have had "Eagle(s)" in it. Or maybe
not. I don't expect to ever find this book, obviously.

Mary

Might this be it:
http://www.maggiedavis.com/file/eaglesinfo.html

http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook1127.htm
Maggie Davis - Eagles 1980
[excerpt]
"Ladies and gentlemen," a voice said from the overhead loudspeakers, "on
your right you will see the F-15 Eagle, the Air Force's new supersonic air
superiority fighter, taxiing to the runway for takeoff. In a few minutes,
the F-15 will perform a thrilling flight demonstration to illustrate to all
of us here today this remarkable aircraft's capabilities."

available in various forms of eBook for $7

Pete
embrace the google maggie+eagle+f-15 = the above link


The google rocks...all bow down to the google...
--

-Gord.

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 04:27:11 GMT, "Pete" wrote:


"Mary Shafer" wrote

The book I would like to find is too old, and too insignificant, to
ever show up in digital form on Amazon. It's a schlocky story about a
bunch of fighter pilots, flying F-15s out of Langley AFB, I think,
with some sort of contrived drama and happy ending. The reason I'd
like to find it is the description of the "dead bug" game, which I
think was a "dead Klingon" version. The author's first name may have
been "Maggie" and the title may have had "Eagle(s)" in it. Or maybe
not. I don't expect to ever find this book, obviously.

Might this be it:
http://www.maggiedavis.com/file/eaglesinfo.html

http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/eBook1127.htm
Maggie Davis - Eagles 1980
[excerpt]
"Ladies and gentlemen," a voice said from the overhead loudspeakers, "on
your right you will see the F-15 Eagle, the Air Force's new supersonic air
superiority fighter, taxiing to the runway for takeoff. In a few minutes,
the F-15 will perform a thrilling flight demonstration to illustrate to all
of us here today this remarkable aircraft's capabilities."

Dear God. 1980. Twenty-three years ago. Come to think of it, I
borrowed it from the guy who was our NLO (Naval Liaison Officer, for
the obligatory military aviation reference) before Fast Eddie and Ed
came to Dryden in 1983 (he's retiring at the beginning of next year).

I was at Langley Research Center, which is at Langley AFB, one Friday
back about then, watching the F-15 performing a thrilling flight
demonstration to illustrate this remarkable aircraft's capabilities
and it decided to demonstrate the remarkable capability to stream a
flame the length of the airplane from one engine. Needless to say, it
then demonstrated the capabilities of quickly shutting an engine down
and getting on the ground.

Of course, I had previously seen the remarkable airplane illustrate
its capability of having an MEA (Mid-air Engine Anomaly), aka a
disintegrating F-100 compressor disk, for the first time, so I was
prepared for a surprise.

available in various forms of eBook for $7

I don't do e-books, but now I can try abebooks.

embrace the google maggie+eagle+f-15 = the above link

I never thought to try google. I tried abebooks with "Eagle" and
"Eagles" and got too many hits to bear, although I did notice Anton
Meyer's "Once an Eagle" and reread it (I recommend it highly, even
though it's about the Army and not aviation).

Thank you very much.

Mary
--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

Mary Shafer wrote in message . ..

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I never thought to try google. I tried abebooks with "Eagle" and
"Eagles" and got too many hits to bear, although I did notice Anton
Meyer's "Once an Eagle" and reread it (I recommend it highly, even
though it's about the Army and not aviation).

One of the real modern classics of the military genre. Spent eons on
the Army Chief of Staff's recommended professional reading list, and
is probably still on it. There was a rather decent (and compared to
most similar efforts rather true to the book) miniseries adaptation of
it on TV back in the late seventies; Sam Elliot played the role of
"Sam Damon".

Brooks


Thank you very much.

Mary