Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

tman wrote:
tman wrote:

With all those factors, and a more conservative fuel load, I was est 50
below gross. Well, I'll never forget leaving that 5000' runway that day
and staring at that mutha****in hill in front of me wondering if I was
going to clear it. The plane was a dog in those conditions, and it did
not appear I was going to clear it -- maybe I would have, a lot of this
was mental _in retrospect_. Had to fight every reflex to keep from
pulling back and further back on that yoke. Watch the airspeed, easy
does it. On the spot I concocted -- First, plan A to veer to the left
just a bit to avoid the terrain, and a plan B to drop 10 flaps and go
for Vx. Plan A did the trick. I probably would have cleared the
terrain just fine. Could I have made it 100lbs over gross? Almost
certainly. I would have done a short-field takeoff and best angle
climb, etc. Do I need that kind of risk and worry in my life? Heck no.
Well, another lesson learned.....


Well done!

-c

gatt writes:

Well done!

Staying below the weight limit would be better done. Bending the rules and
surviving is scarcely commendable when you could have simply obeyed the rules
instead.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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gatt writes:

Well done!

Staying below the weight limit would be better done. Bending the
rules and surviving is scarcely commendable when you could have simply
obeyed the rules instead.


What's the difference? Nothing whatsoever to do with you.
Nothing.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote in
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gatt writes:

Well done!

Staying below the weight limit would be better done. Bending the
rules and surviving is scarcely commendable when you could have simply
obeyed the rules instead.

You've never flown in conditions where the FARs allow you to depart
overweight? If you haven't, then STFU, you moron.

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

Well done!

Staying below the weight limit would be better done. Bending the rules and
surviving is scarcely commendable when you could have simply obeyed the rules
instead.

If actual pilots here need advice they'll get it from pilots. You
don't know what you're talking about, you're not qualified to discuss
the "rules" and the actual pilots here don't need to and should not take
advice from a poser.

You don't fly and you've never flown. You play with yourself. Taking
advice from you would is dangerous.

-c
CP-ASEL-IA

gatt writes:

If actual pilots here need advice they'll get it from pilots.

Since a lot of actual pilots ignore any advice that doesn't agree with their
own beliefs, it doesn't really matter where it comes from.

You don't know what you're talking about, you're not qualified to discuss
the "rules" and the actual pilots here don't need to and should not take
advice from a poser.

The rules are pretty clear, and anyone can understand them, pilot or not.
Even lawyers and insurance adjusters can understand them. It's not a secret
code.

On Apr 23, 6:45*am, Mxsmanic wrote:


You don't know what you're talking about, you're not qualified to discuss
the "rules" and the actual pilots here don't need to and should not take
advice from a poser.

The rules are pretty clear, and anyone can understand them, pilot or not.
Even lawyers and insurance adjusters can understand them. *It's not a secret
code.

They have secret decoder rings that translate what you read into
something else.

Cheers

In article a2ec3b3d-5285-4668-96d9-df04f0506686
@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com, says...
On Apr 23, 6:45*am, Mxsmanic wrote:


You don't know what you're talking about, you're not qualified to discuss
the "rules" and the actual pilots here don't need to and should not take
advice from a poser.

The rules are pretty clear, and anyone can understand them, pilot or not.

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

If actual pilots here need advice they'll get it from pilots.

Since a lot of actual pilots ignore any advice that doesn't agree with their
own beliefs, it doesn't really matter where it comes from.


Take a poll, there, Chairborne. The difference between everybody else
here and you is that we have successfully and repeatedly flown actual
aircraft.

Not everybody here is a bad or inexperienced pilot. There are some here
who are quite highly and demonstrably accomplished and, ...funny...
they continue to make it quite clear that you're a clueless idiot also.

You might as well try teaching sharks to fish. Flying is what we do. You
just sit in your chair and play with yourself. That's your extend of
understanding of weight, balance and the performance of an aircraft.


-C
CP-ASEL-IA

gatt wrote in
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Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

If actual pilots here need advice they'll get it from pilots.

Since a lot of actual pilots ignore any advice that doesn't agree
with their own beliefs, it doesn't really matter where it comes from.


Take a poll, there, Chairborne. The difference between everybody else
here and you is that we have successfully and repeatedly flown actual
aircraft.

Not everybody here is a bad or inexperienced pilot. There are some
here who are quite highly and demonstrably accomplished and,
...funny... they continue to make it quite clear that you're a
clueless idiot also.

You might as well try teaching sharks to fish. Flying is what we do.
You just sit in your chair and play with yourself. That's your extend
of understanding of weight, balance and the performance of an
aircraft.


-C
CP-ASEL-IA


Anthony SIMULATES playing with himself.