USAF F-16 Instructor Discusses Flying Into MOAs

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:16:36 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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In other words, tapes are normally retained for 45 days.


Would you expect the ATC tape(s) of the facility assigned to provide
"Flight Following" to the Pilatus pilot in this incident to be
retained for 15 days or 45 days?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Would you expect the ATC tape(s) of the facility assigned to provide
"Flight Following" to the Pilatus pilot in this incident to be
retained for 15 days or 45 days?


I'd expect it to retain tapes for 45 days unless it's utilizing system
analysis recording tapes as their radar retention media or an analog voice
recorder system.

Since the complaints were filed less than fifteen days after the incidents
occurred I don't see why it matters.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:54:34 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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Since the complaints were filed less than fifteen days after the incidents
occurred I don't see why it matters.

Can you cite a source for that assertion?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:54:34 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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Since the complaints were filed less than fifteen days after the incidents
occurred I don't see why it matters.

Can you cite a source for that assertion?


Of course. My source is the AvWeb report on this incident that you made
users of this forum aware of when you posted the link on April 4th.

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news..._197487-1.html

The AvWeb report is dated March 30th, it says the incidents occurred on
March 21st. Since the complaints were filed within nine days of the
incidents occurrence I fail to see why the facility's normal tape retention
period is fifteen days or 45 days makes any difference.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:13:34 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:54:34 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
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Since the complaints were filed less than fifteen days after the incidents
occurred I don't see why it matters.

Can you cite a source for that assertion?


Of course. My source is the AvWeb report on this incident that you made
users of this forum aware of when you posted the link on April 4th.

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news..._197487-1.html

The AvWeb report is dated March 30th, it says the incidents occurred on
March 21st. Since the complaints were filed within nine days of the
incidents occurrence I fail to see why the facility's normal tape retention
period is fifteen days or 45 days makes any difference.


Thanks. That's good news. That information should be releasable
under FOIA, unlike the USAF flight recorder data.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
news

Thanks. That's good news. That information should be releasable
under FOIA, unlike the USAF flight recorder data.


That's news to you? You posted the link to that article in the message that
started this thread. Perhaps you should read what you post.

On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:47:42 -0500, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in
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Perhaps you should read what you post.

I read, and post, a lot of things. I don't always infer all the fine
points.

In the same vein, why did you state that the tapes are normally
retained for 45 days when you knew it was not pertinent to this
discussion?