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Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross



 
 
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Old April 22nd 08, 09:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 23, 7:25 am, WingFlaps wrote:
On Apr 22, 11:46 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Nomen Nescio writes:
Your attitude has sure taken you far in life.


I agree. Skipping the testosterone, pride, and arrogance makes for a longer
life expectancy.


You're a castrato?

He had to be cut out for the job
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Old April 22nd 08, 10:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gliderguynj
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

So to get back to the OP comments.....
He ended up with a PAX and Luggage heavier than assumed, an airport
higher than thought and a day 20F hotter than expected.
Assuming this most recent post wasn't sarcasm at length, we also were
treated to a nice description of how he almost didn't clear the trees.

And this group says Well Done? Oh the Humanity!

doug
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Old April 22nd 08, 10:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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gliderguynj wrote:
So to get back to the OP comments.....
He ended up with a PAX and Luggage heavier than assumed, an airport
higher than thought and a day 20F hotter than expected.
Assuming this most recent post wasn't sarcasm at length, we also were
treated to a nice description of how he almost didn't clear the trees.

And this group says Well Done? Oh the Humanity!

doug


Group? I don't believe that was my position on this matter :-)

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Old April 23rd 08, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gliderguynj
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 22, 5:15*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Group? I don't believe that was my position on this matter :-)
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No, you were another voice of reason....sorry for using such a broad
word as group,.... It should have been some among us....

Doug
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Old April 23rd 08, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

gliderguynj wrote:
On Apr 22, 5:15 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Group? I don't believe that was my position on this matter :-)
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No, you were another voice of reason....sorry for using such a broad
word as group,.... It should have been some among us....

Doug

That works for me :-))

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Old April 22nd 08, 11:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt[_3_]
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

gliderguynj wrote:
So to get back to the OP comments.....
He ended up with a PAX and Luggage heavier than assumed, an airport
higher than thought and a day 20F hotter than expected.
Assuming this most recent post wasn't sarcasm at length, we also were
treated to a nice description of how he almost didn't clear the trees.

And this group says Well Done? Oh the Humanity!


I guess I missed something. I thought he ended up being under max gross.



-c
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Old April 22nd 08, 11:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
WingFlaps
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 23, 10:26*am, gatt wrote:
gliderguynj wrote:
So to get back to the OP comments.....
He ended up with a PAX and Luggage heavier than assumed, an airport
higher than thought and a day 20F hotter than expected.
Assuming this most recent post wasn't sarcasm at length, we also were
treated to a nice description of how he almost didn't clear the trees.


And this group says Well Done? *Oh the Humanity!


I guess I missed something. *I thought he ended up being under max gross..

You are correct, being under Max would be gross.
:-P
Cheers
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Old April 22nd 08, 11:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

gatt wrote:
gliderguynj wrote:
So to get back to the OP comments.....
He ended up with a PAX and Luggage heavier than assumed, an airport
higher than thought and a day 20F hotter than expected.
Assuming this most recent post wasn't sarcasm at length, we also were
treated to a nice description of how he almost didn't clear the trees.

And this group says Well Done? Oh the Humanity!


I guess I missed something. I thought he ended up being under max gross.



-c

I got the same impression. God knows a few of us tried to accomplish
this anyway. My read was that hr ended up not making the flight with the
pax???

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Old April 23rd 08, 12:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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gatt wrote:
gliderguynj wrote:
So to get back to the OP comments.....
He ended up with a PAX and Luggage heavier than assumed, an airport
higher than thought and a day 20F hotter than expected.
Assuming this most recent post wasn't sarcasm at length, we also were
treated to a nice description of how he almost didn't clear the trees.

And this group says Well Done? Oh the Humanity!


I guess I missed something. I thought he ended up being under max gross.



-c

I got the same impression. God knows a few of us tried to accomplish this
anyway. My read was that hr ended up not making the flight with the pax???

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Dudley Henriques


That was my read as well. He still had a front seater and some of the
luggage, which left him comfortably withing both weight and CG limits.

The temperature on the day of the flight was higher that he had hoped when
planning a week ahead and apparently still well within the acceptable range
for the aircraft and airport; but, when combined with a normally rather than
lightly loaded aircraft, resulted in a "bite sized" learning experience.

So he got the correct reinforcement early on, which helped him to refused
the known overweight flight, and made the right decisions.

Peter



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Old April 23rd 08, 01:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt[_3_]
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

Peter Dohm wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message


I got the same impression. God knows a few of us tried to accomplish this
anyway. My read was that hr ended up not making the flight with the pax???


That was my read as well. He still had a front seater and some of the
luggage, which left him comfortably withing both weight and CG limits.

The temperature on the day of the flight was higher that he had hoped when
planning a week ahead and apparently still well within the acceptable range
for the aircraft and airport; but, when combined with a normally rather than
lightly loaded aircraft, resulted in a "bite sized" learning experience.



Given the altitude, the hot weather and the trees it goes to show how
bad things could have gone if the airplane had been more overgross than
expected.


Pax are a dime a dozen, but, who wants to waste a perfectly-good Cessna?

;


-c


 




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