Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:

Uh. 30 pound over is burned off in about 30 minutes.

Unfortunately, take-off is over in 30 seconds.

Sure it is in a simulatated world.


--
Jim Pennino

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Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world because you
took off overweight.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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writes:

Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world
because you took off overweight.


You don't have the slightest idea of what being 100 lbs overweight will do
to an aircraft's performance, you ****ing idiot. If being 100 lbs
overweight was such a major disaster waiting to happen, why to the FARs
allow it in some instances? If you can't answer that, you just wasting
bandwidth and electrons posting your stupid drivel.

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Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world because you
took off overweight.

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

How come they don't all just crash off the end of the RWY?

--
Duncan

On Apr 23, 8:44*pm, Dave Doe wrote:
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says...

writes:

Sure it is in a simulatated world.

Or if you hit the ground just beyond the runway in the real world because you
took off overweight.

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

How come they don't all just crash off the end of the RWY?


Starched flight suits -and lots of macho badges?

Cheers

Dave Doe writes:

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

Not enough lift.

The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

The military takes risks that are not acceptable for civilian aircraft.

In article ,
says...
Dave Doe writes:

How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

Not enough lift.

So it crashes on your simulator. That doesn't prove it sorry. Do you
have any other evidence?


The military routinely operate 'overweight' - they can not achieve the
climb-out angle required by civilian flight.

The military takes risks that are not acceptable for civilian aircraft.

They take a higher risk - the way you word is is just plain wrong.

Back to topic please, why can the military put more weight on planes and
still fly, yet you claim that civilian planes can not - and that they
will crash. You're contradicting yourself. Your logic is flawed and
wrong.

OT question; why do you post here? Why don't you keep your posts to the
sim NG? What benefit do you get, or expect to get, posting here? You've
claimed sim flying is just like the real thing, why do you post in an NG
with real pilots in it when (so you claim) you can get everything you
need from the sim?

--
Duncan

Dave Doe writes:

So it crashes on your simulator.

Nobody said anything about a simulator.

Do you have any other evidence?

I don't need evidence to prevent me from doing unsafe things.

They take a higher risk - the way you word is is just plain wrong.

Yes, they take risks that are unacceptable for civilian aircraft.

Back to topic please, why can the military put more weight on planes and
still fly, yet you claim that civilian planes can not - and that they
will crash. You're contradicting yourself. Your logic is flawed and
wrong.

I didn't say they would crash. I merely assert that it is unsafe--and
stupid--to exceed aircraft weight limitations. It really amazes me that
anyone would defend this kind of stupidity. I guess that disagreeing with me
is more important than staying alive.

OT question; why do you post here?

I'm interested in aviation.

What benefit do you get, or expect to get, posting here?

Occasionally there is an interesting conversation, or I get a useful answer to
a question (or I provide one).

You've claimed sim flying is just like the real thing ...

No, I haven't.

Dave Doe wrote:
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So it crashes on your simulator.


Not really. All you have to do is press the ALT key--that pauses
everything--open up the map, type in your new altitude and there you are.

Or, if the **** hits the fan, press "ctrl-;" and reset the flight on the
runway or your mid-air save point. JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE.

-c

On Apr 24, 12:23*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dave Doe writes:
How would that happen, given you are (see OP) 75 or 100 pound overweight
- COG is not mentioned, so assume we're inside the envelope (fwd/aft
envelope).

Not enough lift.


Well, you'd have a hard time understaning how a 172 can fly to Haiwaii
then. Try simulating a 172 300# over MTOW?

Vheers