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USAF F-16 Instructor Discusses Flying Into MOAs



 
 
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Old April 23rd 08, 05:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gig 601Xl Builder writes:

Not that I care what you believe but the Platypus driver doesn't have
any tapes to prove what he said.


The AF tapes would suffice.

So, given the word of an Air Force
Officer and the word of someone I have no idea who he is I'll go with
the AF.


I don't believe people based on credentials or position; I've learned the hard
way that it's very dangerous to do so. I prefer hard evidence, but for some
reason the AF isn't willing to provide it. "Trust us" doesn't work with me.
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Old April 23rd 08, 05:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Viperdoc writes:

I can't answer that since I wasn't there, but was simply making the point
that the military is usually responsible for separation in a MOA, so FARs
regarding spacing, proximity, etc. don't apply.


Separation among their own aircraft, _not_ civilian aircraft in the same
airspace.

It is unlikely that the HUD tapes will ever be released, since they are
classified.


They can be declassified. But that won't happen if they prove the AF was in
error.
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Old April 23rd 08, 05:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mike Isaksen writes:

At 600 feet I doubt any reasonable pilot
would win a claim of "formation flying".


At 600 feet it's really hard to ID an aircraft, at least if you want the tail
number.
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Old April 23rd 08, 06:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Either the pilots were incompetent or there was some other reason why they
were behaving incompetently.


You don't know **** from shinola about pilot competence or anything else
in the real world.

Your sim world tunnel vision is blindingly oblivious to the nuances of
the real world and your thoughts are as valuable as a legal opinion from
Lionel Hutz.

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Old April 23rd 08, 06:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Viperdoc writes:






I can't answer that since I wasn't there, but was simply making the
point that the military is usually responsible for separation in a
MOA, so FARs regarding spacing, proximity, etc. don't apply.


Separation among their own aircraft, _not_ civilian aircraft in the
same airspace.

It is unlikely that the HUD tapes will ever be released, since they
are classified.


They can be declassified. But that won't happen if they prove the AF
was in error.


You are an idiot.

Bertie
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Old April 23rd 08, 06:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Mike Isaksen writes:


At 600 feet I doubt any reasonable pilot
would win a claim of "formation flying".


At 600 feet it's really hard to ID an aircraft, at least if you want the tail
number.


Like you've ever been 600 feet from an aircraft in flight.


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Old April 23rd 08, 11:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 2008-04-22, WingFlaps wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:31*am, Larry Dighera wrote:
Oh, you mean like the US pilot(s) who suppressed evidence in the fatal
European funicular strike.


What/when was that?


It was a cable car, not a funicular railway, but:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/294086.stm

The aircraft wasn't even authorized to fly in that area. There were also
allegations of video evidence disappearing.

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