Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

george writes:

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

By the description given.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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george writes:

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

By the description given.


Wrong again, fjukkwit.


bertie

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?
By the description given.


So, I've read some descriptions of France, and according to the
descriptions, everybody over there is a chain-smoking, bloated,
undersexed, arrogant socialist cheese-eating alcoholic asshole whose
only respectable military force is their FOREIGN Legion.

I could ask a genuine frenchman or visit France, but, I don't need to
because of the "descriptions given." And since I studied French in high
school, I'm STILL more educated on the subject than Andrew is about
aviation.

"C'est la vie" say the old folks...

-c

gatt wrote:


So, I've read some descriptions of France, and according to the
descriptions, everybody over there is a chain-smoking, bloated,
undersexed, arrogant socialist cheese-eating alcoholic asshole whose
only respectable military force is their FOREIGN Legion.

I could ask a genuine frenchman or visit France, but, I don't need to
because of the "descriptions given." And since I studied French in high
school, I'm STILL more educated on the subject than Andrew is about
aviation.

"C'est la vie" say the old folks...

-c

Anthony you mean.

P.S. Gatt, I really just corrected you on this so I could repost your
statement above.

gatt writes:

So, I've read some descriptions of France, and according to the
descriptions, everybody over there is a chain-smoking, bloated,
undersexed, arrogant socialist cheese-eating alcoholic asshole whose
only respectable military force is their FOREIGN Legion.

That is largely correct.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

gatt writes:

So, I've read some descriptions of France, and according to the
descriptions, everybody over there is a chain-smoking, bloated,
undersexed, arrogant socialist cheese-eating alcoholic asshole whose
only respectable military force is their FOREIGN Legion.

That is largely correct.


So, you don't know anything about France, either.


Bertie

"Nomen Nescio" wrote in message
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From: george

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his
joystick.

Which could mean leaning back his chair... What a picture!

Thank God he's not my upstairs neighbor, and by a comfortable distance.

Peter :-)))

On Apr 24, 5:30 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:
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From: george

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his joystick.

Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it.
Once!
If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain
track and no climb out of ground effect.
Wrong side of the power curve killed them

On Apr 25, 8:29*am, george wrote:
On Apr 24, 5:30 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:





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From: george

On Apr 24, 12:24 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Doesn't look like an engine failure or spin to me. *The aircraft was
overweight, though.

How the hell would you know what either engine failure or a spin looks
like?

Remember. You can't and don't fly.
I'd guess that this was an aft CofG.with all that that implies to the
pilots here...

MX's idea of an aft CG is leaning back in his chair as he yanks his joystick.

Well I downloaded the video that he linked to and watched it.
Once!
If you download it you'll notice high nose, inability to maintain
track and no climb out of ground effect.
Wrong side of the power curve killed them- Hide quoted text -


Yes, aft COG probably led to an early rotation he did not prevent with
forward pressure. With a very loaded aft COG it feels like the plane
wants to lift off but you must keep one eye on the ASI and keep that
nose down until you reach an increased rotate speed -or the end of the
runway...
Cheers