Lancair crash at SnF

B A R R Y schrieb:

I'd rather hit a bus shelter or light poles @ 40-50 MPH than go in
inverted after a stall/spin @ 200-300 AGL.

But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

On Apr 26, 12:18*am, Stefan wrote:
B A R R Y schrieb:

I'd rather hit a bus shelter or light poles @ 40-50 MPH than go in
inverted after a stall/spin @ 200-300 AGL.

But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

I thought the engine had stopped?

Cheers

On 2008-04-25, WingFlaps wrote:
On Apr 26, 12:18*am, Stefan wrote:
But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

I thought the engine had stopped?

The prop will often keep turning after the engine has stopped - unless
you can feather it. (I have flown singles with feathering propellors,
but they are the exception).

There are also degrees of engine failure other than quitting dead -
sometimes, an engine may continue to make a minimal amount of power
after the failure event occurred.

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duh wing flaaper!

It happens that Dylan Smith formulated :
I thought the engine had stopped?

The prop will often keep turning after the engine has stopped

But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

WingFlaps wrote:
I thought the engine had stopped?

No, don't think the engine quit. They said it was smoking on takeoff,
and witnesses who saw it come down described how the engine sounded, so
it apparently was still running.

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:49:11 -0700 (PDT), WingFlaps wrote:

I thought the engine had stopped?

Just out of morbid curiosity, how do you even manage to get yourself
motivated to post? It can't be fun for you any more after making a fool
of yourself so many times, can it? In fact the last two days have been
so horrible for you, you just had to dig back to Tuesday to find a post
you could reply to without embarrassing yourself so much even you can't
stand it. Pretty sad considering your lack of self respect.

Seriously. Why do you bother? You can't honestly believe anyone sees you
as anything but a clown any more, can you? Don't you have anything you
could be doing that would be a bit less of a nightmare for you, like
burning yourself with lit cigarettes or finger painting with your own
feces?
--
My father was the architect for the Entebbe raid. I love Israel.
Excuse me? **** you in your non-Jew nose, Entebbe was NOT a fiasco!

Ummmm............

I think in this example the "meat chopper" is out of service.

Valid point tho...

Dave

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:18:19 +0200, Stefan
wrote:

B A R R Y schrieb:

I'd rather hit a bus shelter or light poles @ 40-50 MPH than go in
inverted after a stall/spin @ 200-300 AGL.

But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

Stefan wrote:
B A R R Y schrieb:

I'd rather hit a bus shelter or light poles @ 40-50 MPH than go in
inverted after a stall/spin @ 200-300 AGL.

But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

If the chopper were turning... G

Stefan wrote:
B A R R Y schrieb:

I'd rather hit a bus shelter or light poles @ 40-50 MPH than go in
inverted after a stall/spin @ 200-300 AGL.

But I hope that you rather risk a stall/spin than to hit a crowd of
pedestrians with that meat chopper turning.

Guys... Take a deep breath, please. Is this the "Argument Room", or what?

In truth, I'm going to aim for the pack of baby joggers, or the senior
citizen walking club, doing laps around the parking lot. Or with better
luck, it'll be recess at the local elementary school... Come on! G

A dead stick spam can, even though quickly descending, is plenty
controllable while still flying. As one gets closer, and options run
out, pilot choices remain to minimize or eliminate collateral damage.
Shopping centers, industrial parks, golf courses, etc... all have
greatly varying "busy" periods. That's all part of the decision at the
actual time of need.

We're talking low altitude, where the population of a landing spot
should be pretty obvious.

As we nit-pick this to death, what are the choices after a stall just a
few hundred feet above the ground while turning?

On Apr 26, 3:16*am, B A R R Y wrote:


As we nit-pick this to death, what are the choices after a stall just a
few hundred feet above the ground while turning?

In a 172 in a gliding steep (=45 degree bank) turn at 65 knots? Very
high I'd say and I've done it at altitude as a demonstration. But
there are those who just don't believe/know it and it happens with
depressing frequency. This why I argue against the "impossible
turn"...

Cheers