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Old April 25th 08, 04:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gatt[_3_]
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:

Who else here "discusses aviation" with you?


There are several people here who seem level-headed, but I won't name them,
lest the treehouse club add them to the target list.

Surely somebody will step forward and defend you.


Why? I can defend myself very well indeed.


You completely missed yet another point.

-c
  #2  
Old April 25th 08, 11:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 26, 1:18*am, gatt wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:


Who else here "discusses aviation" with you?


There are several people here who seem level-headed, but I won't name them,
lest the treehouse club add them to the target list.


Surely somebody will step forward and defend you.


Why? *I can defend myself very well indeed.


You completely missed yet another point.


I did in fact defend him for some time, but later felt the need to
apologise to the group, for my behaviour in doing that.
As a relatively inexperienced pilot I guess I didnt fully appreciate
the annoyance that airline pilots and instructors would feel being
told they were wrong (without substantiating evidence) by someone who
had never flown in his life. As a PhD in physical chemisty ,my
attitude changed somewhat when he tried to tell me how the Universal
Gas Law didnt apply in the atmophere, despite several polite attempts
on my part to explain otherwise. There is nothing wrong with being
wrong, as long as you learn from the experience. It is the complete
and utter inability to accept and acknowledge when he is wrong that is
so irritating. If he wasnt such an obnoxious character and wasnt
16000 km away I would otherwise have loved to take him up ( gratis),
although I suspect there is something else lacking that would have
prevented him from accepting.

I have a suggestion, why dont we have a collection and send Anthony
off on a trial instructional flight on the proviso that the instructor
publishes an account of his peformance on this group? I'll contribute
$20
What about it Anthony , are you up for it?




  #3  
Old April 26th 08, 12:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Benjamin Dover
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

terry wrote in
:

On Apr 26, 1:18*am, gatt wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:


Who else here "discusses aviation" with you?


There are several people here who seem level-headed, but I won't
name th

em,
lest the treehouse club add them to the target list.


Surely somebody will step forward and defend you.


Why? *I can defend myself very well indeed.


You completely missed yet another point.


I did in fact defend him for some time, but later felt the need to
apologise to the group, for my behaviour in doing that.
As a relatively inexperienced pilot I guess I didnt fully appreciate
the annoyance that airline pilots and instructors would feel being
told they were wrong (without substantiating evidence) by someone who
had never flown in his life. As a PhD in physical chemisty ,my
attitude changed somewhat when he tried to tell me how the Universal
Gas Law didnt apply in the atmophere, despite several polite attempts
on my part to explain otherwise. There is nothing wrong with being
wrong, as long as you learn from the experience. It is the complete
and utter inability to accept and acknowledge when he is wrong that is
so irritating. If he wasnt such an obnoxious character and wasnt
16000 km away I would otherwise have loved to take him up ( gratis),
although I suspect there is something else lacking that would have
prevented him from accepting.


Don't feel bad. You're not the first one to try and work with the
MXSmoron. Many of the posters who now bash him also tried.


I have a suggestion, why dont we have a collection and send Anthony
off on a trial instructional flight on the proviso that the instructor
publishes an account of his peformance on this group? I'll contribute
$20
What about it Anthony , are you up for it?


This offer has been made before and more than once. Anthony is too CS to
to go up in a small airplane. But, then again, he is to CS to experience
real life.

For a laugh, look at Anthony's user profile in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Agateller

For more laughs, look go to his profile in VATSIM and then click on "Find
all posts by Anthony Atkielski 985811". There are some real pilots and
controllers there, but it is amazing how idiots like Anthony can't
understand what the people who do this stuff in real life are trying to
explain to him. Like Anthony's claim that, similar to trains, there is a
"dead mans" switch in airplane cockpits, but they are not simulated.

Anthony's VATSIM profile can be found at:
http://forums.vatsim.net/profile.php...ofile&u=985811

Just my own observation, have had read access to both this newsgroup AND
the old COMPUSERV AVSIG news group for well over two decades now. A lot of
people with some great experiences that they were willing to share have
left because of the harrassment they got from the Anthony's who post here.
Even Splaps Tarver and the Rockaway Loon have shown far more knowledge and
understanding about aviation than Anthony, despite his claims to
intelligence, ever will. Even the fish who's name we no longer mention
would rank above Anthony in understanding aviation, although not by much.
It is very fortunate that we have some stalwarts like Dudly and the Bunyip
who ignore Anthony's ravings and continue to generously give this newsgroup
the benefit of their hard earned experience and knowledge.
  #4  
Old April 26th 08, 01:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
terry
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 26, 9:40*am, Benjamin Dover wrote:
terry wrote :





On Apr 26, 1:18*am, gatt wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:


Who else here "discusses aviation" with you?


There are several people here who seem level-headed, but I won't
name th

em,
lest the treehouse club add them to the target list.


Surely somebody will step forward and defend you.


Why? *I can defend myself very well indeed.


You completely missed yet another point.


I did in fact defend him for some time, *but later felt the need to
apologise to the group, for my behaviour in doing that.
As a relatively inexperienced pilot I guess I didnt fully appreciate
the annoyance that airline pilots and instructors would feel being
told they were wrong (without substantiating evidence) by someone who
had never flown in his life. *As a PhD in physical chemisty ,my
attitude changed somewhat when he tried to tell me how the Universal
Gas Law didnt apply in the atmophere, despite several polite attempts
on my part to explain otherwise. *There is nothing wrong with being
wrong, as long as you learn from the experience. It is the complete
and utter inability to accept and acknowledge when he is wrong that is
so irritating. *If he wasnt such an obnoxious character and wasnt
16000 km away I would otherwise have loved to take him up ( gratis),
although I suspect there is something else lacking that would have
prevented him from accepting.


Don't feel bad. *You're not the first one to try and work with the
MXSmoron. *Many of the posters who now bash him also tried.



I have a suggestion, why dont we have a collection and *send Anthony
off on a trial instructional flight on the proviso that the instructor
publishes an account of his peformance on this group? *I'll contribute
$20
What about it Anthony , are you up for it?


This offer has been made before and more than once. *Anthony is too CS to
to go up in a small airplane. *But, then again, he is to CS to experience
real life.

For a laugh, look at Anthony's user profile in Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Agateller

For more laughs, look go to his profile in VATSIM and then click on "Find
all posts by Anthony Atkielski 985811". *There are some real pilots and
controllers there, but it is amazing how idiots like Anthony can't
understand what the people who do this stuff in real life are trying to
explain to him. *Like Anthony's claim that, similar to trains, there is a
"dead mans" switch in airplane cockpits, but they are not simulated.

Anthony's VATSIM profile can be found at:http://forums.vatsim.net/profile.php...ofile&u=985811

Just my own observation, have had read access to both this newsgroup AND
the old COMPUSERV AVSIG news group for well over two decades now. *A lot of
people with some great experiences that they were willing to share have
left because of the harrassment they got from the Anthony's who post here. *
Even Splaps Tarver and the Rockaway Loon have shown far more knowledge and
understanding about aviation than Anthony, despite his claims to
intelligence, ever will. *Even the fish who's name we no longer mention
would rank above Anthony in understanding aviation, although not by much. *
It is very fortunate that we have some stalwarts like Dudly and the Bunyip
who ignore Anthony's ravings and continue to generously give this newsgroup
the benefit of their hard earned experience and knowledge.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


For someone with such supposedly high levels of IT skills, which
demand high paid salaries, why does he cry poor?



  #5  
Old April 26th 08, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

terry wrote in
:

On Apr 26, 9:40*am, Benjamin Dover wrote:
terry wrote
innews:c5c4bd2f-93de-45fd-928e-6feca69

:





On Apr 26, 1:18*am, gatt wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
gatt writes:


Who else here "discusses aviation" with you?


There are several people here who seem level-headed, but I won't
name th
em,
lest the treehouse club add them to the target list.


Surely somebody will step forward and defend you.


Why? *I can defend myself very well indeed.


You completely missed yet another point.


I did in fact defend him for some time, *but later felt the need to
apologise to the group, for my behaviour in doing that.
As a relatively inexperienced pilot I guess I didnt fully
appreciate the annoyance that airline pilots and instructors would
feel being told they were wrong (without substantiating evidence)
by someone who had never flown in his life. *As a PhD in physical
chemisty ,my attitude changed somewhat when he tried to tell me how
the Universal Gas Law didnt apply in the atmophere, despite several
polite attempts on my part to explain otherwise. *There is nothing
wrong with being wrong, as long as you learn from the experience.
It is the complete and utter inability to accept and acknowledge
when he is wrong that is so irritating. *If he wasnt such an
obnoxious character and wasnt 16000 km away I would otherwise have
loved to take him up ( gratis), although I suspect there is
something else lacking that would have prevented him from
accepting.


Don't feel bad. *You're not the first one to try and work with the
MXSmoron. *Many of the posters who now bash him also tried.



I have a suggestion, why dont we have a collection and *send
Anthony off on a trial instructional flight on the proviso that the
instructor publishes an account of his peformance on this group?
*I'll contribute


$20
What about it Anthony , are you up for it?


This offer has been made before and more than once. *Anthony is too
CS t

o
to go up in a small airplane. *But, then again, he is to CS to
experienc

e
real life.

For a laugh, look at Anthony's user profile in
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikiped
ia.org/wiki/User:Agateller

For more laughs, look go to his profile in VATSIM and then click on
"Find all posts by Anthony Atkielski 985811". *There are some real
pilots and controllers there, but it is amazing how idiots like
Anthony can't understand what the people who do this stuff in real
life are trying to explain to him. *Like Anthony's claim that,
similar to trains, there is

a
"dead mans" switch in airplane cockpits, but they are not simulated.

Anthony's VATSIM profile can be found
at:http://forums.vatsim.net/profile.

php?mode=viewprofile&u=985811

Just my own observation, have had read access to both this newsgroup
AND the old COMPUSERV AVSIG news group for well over two decades now.
*A lot

of
people with some great experiences that they were willing to share
have left because of the harrassment they got from the Anthony's who
post here.

*
Even Splaps Tarver and the Rockaway Loon have shown far more
knowledge and


understanding about aviation than Anthony, despite his claims to
intelligence, ever will. *Even the fish who's name we no longer
mention would rank above Anthony in understanding aviation, although
not by much.

*
It is very fortunate that we have some stalwarts like Dudly and the
Bunyip


who ignore Anthony's ravings and continue to generously give this
newsgrou

p
the benefit of their hard earned experience and knowledge.- Hide
quoted te

xt -

- Show quoted text -


For someone with such supposedly high levels of IT skills, which
demand high paid salaries, why does he cry poor?





Nobody will give him a job.


Bertie
  #6  
Old April 26th 08, 01:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
george
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

On Apr 26, 12:05 pm, terry wrote:
- Show quoted text -

For someone with such supposedly high levels of IT skills, which
demand high paid salaries, why does he cry poor?


Incompetence has its own rewards...... ?
  #7  
Old April 26th 08, 03:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Benjamin Dover
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Default Should I be scared -- C172 over Gross

terry wrote in news:dd3dc9df-91f9-4d71-a1d7-
:

For someone with such supposedly high levels of IT skills, which
demand high paid salaries, why does he cry poor?


Because Anthony is a programming legend in his own mind and no where else.

 




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