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Old April 26th 08, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Benjamin Dover writes:

Here's one he posted today in VATSIM in response to someone who pointed out
that in trains is a "dead man's" button which, if controls are not touched
every few minutes, set off an alarm. Said Anthony, "Aircraft have this,
too, at least in real life, although it doesn't seem to be simulated, at
least not by PMDG." He really doesn't know **** from shinola.


The 747-400 has three levels of alarm. All appear as PILOT RESPONSE on the
EICAS, the first being an advisory without an audible alarm, the second a
caution with a beeper, and the third a warning with a siren. The 777 (at
least, not sure about others) also has this alarm, and I presume it works in
much the same way. I'm sure it's configurable by operators.
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Old April 26th 08, 12:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
David Horne, _the_ chancellor
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Mxsmanic wrote:

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The 747-400 has three levels of alarm.


Mixi, your posts usually set of 13 levels of alarm.

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Old April 26th 08, 12:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Benjamin Dover writes:

Here's one he posted today in VATSIM in response to someone who
pointed out that in trains is a "dead man's" button which, if
controls are not touched every few minutes, set off an alarm. Said
Anthony, "Aircraft have this, too, at least in real life, although it
doesn't seem to be simulated, at least not by PMDG." He really
doesn't know **** from shinola.


The 747-400 has three levels of alarm. All appear as PILOT RESPONSE
on the EICAS, the first being an advisory without an audible alarm,
the second a caution with a beeper, and the third a warning with a
siren. The 777 (at least, not sure about others) also has this alarm,
and I presume it works in much the same way. I'm sure it's
configurable by operators.


This from someone who had to ask where the handle for the ejector seat on
his Baron was located. And from someone who tells us about flying his
Baron from Phoenix to Las Vegas "In the real world, when you have VFR
traffic in your airspace that you're not talking to, does the traffic
usually follow established airways, or fly mostly direct to obvious fixes
(like VORs or major waypoints), or does VFR traffic tend to be all over the
place?"

How about your boasts of all your flying experience and how you prefer IFR,
Anthony? If you had any experience whatsoever, why did you need to ask in
VATSIM today (4/25/2008) "When flying IFR under ATC, am I required to use
only altimeter settings provided by ATC, or can I listen to the ATIS of a
nearby airport and set my altimeter that way?" Any IFR rated pilot knows
the answer and why. Hell, private pilots know the answer and why while
still student pilots. You don't. You're not a pilot. YOU DON'T KNOW ****
FROM SHINOLA. YOU ARE AN IMPOSTER. A POSER. A PHONY!
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Old April 26th 08, 01:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Benjamin Dover writes:

This from someone who had to ask where the handle for the ejector seat on
his Baron was located.


I don't recall asking such a question.

Any IFR rated pilot knows the answer and why.


There are a lot of things that IFR-rated pilots are supposed to know that they
don't.
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Old April 26th 08, 03:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Benjamin Dover writes:

This from someone who had to ask where the handle for the ejector
seat on his Baron was located.


I don't recall asking such a question.

Any IFR rated pilot knows the answer and why.


There are a lot of things that IFR-rated pilots are supposed to know
that they don't.


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE.

You most certainly did. You didn't know if a simulated Baron was different
from the real thing and asked if an ejector seat was really there.

So much for your continuous bull **** about how great MSFS with the 3rd
party add ons is in providing realistic "flying".

YOU DON'T KNOW **** FROM SHINOLA

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Old April 26th 08, 11:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Benjamin Dover writes:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Benjamin Dover writes:

This from someone who had to ask where the handle for the ejector
seat on his Baron was located.


I don't recall asking such a question.

Any IFR rated pilot knows the answer and why.


There are a lot of things that IFR-rated pilots are supposed to know
that they don't.


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE.

You most certainly did. You didn't know if a simulated Baron was different
from the real thing and asked if an ejector seat was really there.


Yes, but that's not what you said initially. You said I asked where the
handle for the ejection seat was, and that isn't true. This is what I
actually asked on October 15, 2006:

I note in the simulation of the Baron in MSFS (Dreamfleet's
simulation), there's a button on the left side of the pilot, part of
several rows of buttons, marked "Ejection seat." I don't know if this
is a joke on the part of the developers, or something that really
exists in the aircraft. In the latter case, the only reason I can
think of for it would be if it were something that existed on a
military version of the aircraft. Is it really there?


I don't recall ever getting a serious answer to this question.

So much for your continuous bull **** about how great MSFS with the 3rd
party add ons is in providing realistic "flying".


I imagine that the button is what developers call an "Easter egg." An
aircraft like the Baron is rather small and light and ejection seats are
heavy, and I don't recall ever reading about an aircraft of this type being so
equipped. But one never knows. If someone told me not so many years ago that
private pilots would be buying aircraft that have giant parachutes to lower
the entire airframe to the ground in an emergency, I would have found that
pretty hard to believe, too.
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Old April 26th 08, 12:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Benjamin Dover writes:

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Benjamin Dover writes:

This from someone who had to ask where the handle for the ejector
seat on his Baron was located.

I don't recall asking such a question.

Any IFR rated pilot knows the answer and why.

There are a lot of things that IFR-rated pilots are supposed to
know that they don't.


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE.

You most certainly did. You didn't know if a simulated Baron was
different from the real thing and asked if an ejector seat was really
there.


Yes, but that's not what you said initially. You said I asked where
the handle for the ejection seat was, and that isn't true. This is
what I actually asked on October 15, 2006:


Which makes you a disingenuous fjukkwit.

I note in the simulation of the Baron in MSFS (Dreamfleet's
simulation), there's a button on the left side of the pilot, part of
several rows of buttons, marked "Ejection seat." I don't know if
this is a joke on the part of the developers, or something that
really exists in the aircraft. In the latter case, the only reason I
can think of for it would be if it were something that existed on a
military version of the aircraft. Is it really there?


I don't recall ever getting a serious answer to this question.



Becasue it didn;'t deserve one you retard.


Bertie


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Old April 26th 08, 03:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

I note in the simulation of the Baron in MSFS (Dreamfleet's
simulation), there's a button on the left side of the pilot, part of
several rows of buttons, marked "Ejection seat." I don't know if this
is a joke on the part of the developers, or something that really
exists in the aircraft. In the latter case, the only reason I can
think of for it would be if it were something that existed on a
military version of the aircraft. Is it really there?


I don't recall ever getting a serious answer to this question.


Anthony'

The Baron has never as far as I know, was never fitted with any ejection
system; certainly not on any civilian version I have ever seen.


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Old April 28th 08, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

ALERT ALERT ALERT...

BEEP BEEP BEEP...

This post is being made without any pilot intervention.
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Old April 28th 08, 02:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Benjamin Dover writes:

This from someone who had to ask where the handle for the ejector seat on
his Baron was located.


I don't recall asking such a question.

Any IFR rated pilot knows the answer and why.


There are a lot of things that IFR-rated pilots are supposed to know that they
don't.



Beep.Beep. This post is made without any pilot intervention.
 




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