Student invents new math process

vincent p. norris wrote:
I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT
scores of any field other than physical education.

That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

One of my teachers once said "you're not here to learn, you're here to be
taught". Looks like that sentiment still holds.
The school's only A-level chemistry teacher went off sick the second year of
my studies, the best the school could come up with was a teacher who was
learning the syllabus as he was teaching it. Most of the time he was only
one lesson ahead of us, if we picked something up quicker than planned then
he couldn't do anymore 'til he'd learnt it for the next session. A truely
stupid plan but we got through the year somehow.

--
James...
http://www.jameshart.co.uk/

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:30:04 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote:

I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT scores of
any field other than physical education.

That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

We aren't willing to pay for the brightest, though.

Say I'm good at math and I like it, so I can go into teaching for some
miserable pittance or I can go into engineering for three times as
much. If I'm as smart as you're hoping for, I'm too smart to go into
teaching. And I save a year of college, because teaching takes five
years and engineering takes the standard four years.

In my own case, my father was a high-school teacher and my parents
really did their best to discourage me from going into teaching.
Having watched my father, I was never tempted at all. Teaching a
night course at the local junior college for three semesters just
reaffirmed the rightness of my decision.

If you want, you can blame it all on the women's movement, since it
was that that opened other occupations to women. No longer forced to
be teachers or nurses, we chose higher-paying, more prestigious
professions. Let's face it, "I'm a third-grade teacher" doesn't get
nearly the attention "I'm a research engineer at NASA" does.

Mary

--
Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:30:04 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote:

I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT scores of
any field other than physical education.

That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

vince norris


Once in a while you get exceptions. Back in the day. . .well I guess
it wasn't THAT long ago (81 or thereabouts. . .God) I had a math
teacher that was a graduate of Brown University. In what I don't
recall but I think he just did the teaching because he *liked* it not
because he needed the money. He was a big guy and old school (even
back then) and you did NOT screw around in class like they do these
day. Well not if you valued your health :-)

vincent p. norris wrote:

I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT scores of
any field other than physical education.


That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

vince norris

Unfortunately most of the brightest won't work for what our schools and
we are willing to pay.

Fortunately there are some top notch teachers who are working for
peanuts because they believe in what they do. My wife and daughter are
among them, both graduated summa cum laude from university and both
have gone on to advanced degrees to become better teachers. Lucky for my
wife I don't teach and have always made about ten times what teachers
do. Daughter is a single mom and has sacrificed a lot for what she
believes in. IMHO we need more people like my two ladies.

George

George Shirley wrote:


Fortunately there are some top notch teachers who are working for
peanuts because they believe in what they do. My wife and daughter are
among them, both graduated summa cum laude from university and both
have gone on to advanced degrees to become better teachers. Lucky for my
wife I don't teach and have always made about ten times what teachers
do. Daughter is a single mom and has sacrificed a lot for what she
believes in. IMHO we need more people like my two ladies.

George

I know where you're coming from, my daughter is also a single mom
and teaches ECE (Early Childhood Education) in Canada. She also
has given up a lot to be able to continue, she likens it to 'drug
dependency', says she's hooked on it, loves it.
--

-Gord.

wow

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:40:58 -0800, Mary Shafer
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:30:04 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote:

I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT scores of
any field other than physical education.

That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

We aren't willing to pay for the brightest, though.

Say I'm good at math and I like it, so I can go into teaching for some
miserable pittance or I can go into engineering for three times as
much. If I'm as smart as you're hoping for, I'm too smart to go into
teaching. And I save a year of college, because teaching takes five
years and engineering takes the standard four years.

In my own case, my father was a high-school teacher and my parents
really did their best to discourage me from going into teaching.
Having watched my father, I was never tempted at all. Teaching a
night course at the local junior college for three semesters just
reaffirmed the rightness of my decision.

If you want, you can blame it all on the women's movement, since it
was that that opened other occupations to women. No longer forced to
be teachers or nurses, we chose higher-paying, more prestigious
professions. Let's face it, "I'm a third-grade teacher" doesn't get
nearly the attention "I'm a research engineer at NASA" does.

Mary

hey, WTF does this have to do with the original post which was way
off topic anyway???? Please post and respond to only ontopic stuff??
Mary, you seem pretty bright,,,why don't you post a topic instead of
always trying to correct people and show us how smart you are???
Seriously???
On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:40:58 -0800, Mary Shafer
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:30:04 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote:

I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT scores of
any field other than physical education.

That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

We aren't willing to pay for the brightest, though.

Say I'm good at math and I like it, so I can go into teaching for some
miserable pittance or I can go into engineering for three times as
much. If I'm as smart as you're hoping for, I'm too smart to go into
teaching. And I save a year of college, because teaching takes five
years and engineering takes the standard four years.

In my own case, my father was a high-school teacher and my parents
really did their best to discourage me from going into teaching.
Having watched my father, I was never tempted at all. Teaching a
night course at the local junior college for three semesters just
reaffirmed the rightness of my decision.

If you want, you can blame it all on the women's movement, since it
was that that opened other occupations to women. No longer forced to
be teachers or nurses, we chose higher-paying, more prestigious
professions. Let's face it, "I'm a third-grade teacher" doesn't get
nearly the attention "I'm a research engineer at NASA" does.

Mary

I blame it not on the "womens movement" which is the most ridiculous
thing I've ever heard,,(you had it right at first when you proposed
money as the real reason),,,I'll be even more ridiculous and blame it
on the Nazi's!!!!


On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 16:40:58 -0800, Mary Shafer
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:30:04 -0500, vincent p. norris
wrote:

I believe education majors in universities have the lowest SAT scores of
any field other than physical education.

That seems to be true, and it is one of the most rgrettable things
about our society. Our kids should be taught by the brightest, not
by the dimmest.

We aren't willing to pay for the brightest, though.

Say I'm good at math and I like it, so I can go into teaching for some
miserable pittance or I can go into engineering for three times as
much. If I'm as smart as you're hoping for, I'm too smart to go into
teaching. And I save a year of college, because teaching takes five
years and engineering takes the standard four years.

In my own case, my father was a high-school teacher and my parents
really did their best to discourage me from going into teaching.
Having watched my father, I was never tempted at all. Teaching a
night course at the local junior college for three semesters just
reaffirmed the rightness of my decision.

If you want, you can blame it all on the women's movement, since it
was that that opened other occupations to women. No longer forced to
be teachers or nurses, we chose higher-paying, more prestigious
professions. Let's face it, "I'm a third-grade teacher" doesn't get
nearly the attention "I'm a research engineer at NASA" does.

Mary

wrote:

George Shirley wrote:


Fortunately there are some top notch teachers who are working for
peanuts because they believe in what they do. My wife and daughter are
among them, both graduated summa cum laude from university and both
have gone on to advanced degrees to become better teachers. Lucky for my
wife I don't teach and have always made about ten times what teachers
do. Daughter is a single mom and has sacrificed a lot for what she
believes in. IMHO we need more people like my two ladies.

George


I know where you're coming from, my daughter is also a single mom
and teaches ECE (Early Childhood Education) in Canada. She also
has given up a lot to be able to continue, she likens it to 'drug
dependency', says she's hooked on it, loves it.
--

-Gord.

I'm just glad someone is willing to do it and do it right. I see too
many kids coming out of high school here in Louisiana who not only can't
read and write they have no "life" skills at all. I end up paying for
they and their children to live on welfare.

I would be in jail for murder if I had to teach junior high or high
school for a living. First little SOB that cursed me or showed
disrespect would learn what an old NCO can do with his boots. Sheesh,
and to think I've got five grandkids in that bunch.

Yeah, I have lots of respect for dedicated teachers and think they
should put the others up against the wall.

George

George Shirley wrote:

I'm just glad someone is willing to do it and do it right. I see too
many kids coming out of high school here in Louisiana who not only can't
read and write they have no "life" skills at all. I end up paying for
they and their children to live on welfare.

I would be in jail for murder if I had to teach junior high or high
school for a living. First little SOB that cursed me or showed
disrespect would learn what an old NCO can do with his boots. Sheesh,
and to think I've got five grandkids in that bunch.

Yeah, I have lots of respect for dedicated teachers and think they
should put the others up against the wall.

George

I agree enthusiastically...I've got 8 grandkids and very short
teeth from gritting them to avoid blasting some of them
occasionally.

They're really not bad kids but kids now-a-days are raised
differently than they were back when. It really bothered me to
see my 13 year old grandson taking over the right seat in the
family car and relegating his mom to the back seat. I pointed
this out to his dad by saying that it lowered her in his
subconscious mind. He denied it weakly but I see her back where
she belongs now.

Guess I'm not entirely useless yet...
--

-Gord.