USAF Loses UAV Over Populated Area In Training Exercise

Larry Dighera wrote:
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Larry Dighera wrote:
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Larry Dighera wrote:
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In a war theater there is no
need for those sorts of safeguards, so training operations employing
hardware not designed for civil operation is inappropriate.

So there should be training bombers and war bombers, training tanks
and war tanks, training rifles and war rifles, training Humvees and
war Humvees...

No. If at all, there should be UAVs that are designed for domestic
operations during peacetime, instead of hardware designed for use in
war theaters being used domestically.

And what precisely would be the difference between a "peacetime" UAV
and a "war theater" UAV?


One would be designed to be safe for domestic operation over, and in
proximity to, the public; the other would be designed for its efficacy
in the war theater with public safeguard concerns subordinate..

Nice arm waving.

Now, what precisely would be the difference between a "peacetime" UAV
and a "war theater" UAV?

What design parameters would be different?

If you have nothing concrete in mind, you are just babbling.


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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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No. If at all, there should be UAVs that are designed for domestic
operations during peacetime, instead of hardware designed for use in
war theaters being used domestically.


Why?



And unless the military can show good cause to train over cities,
their UAV training should be restricted to unpopulated areas.


What's the mission of the UAV?

On May 9, 6:51*pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:35:05 GMT, wrote in
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 09 May 2008 22:05:02 GMT, wrote in
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In a war theater there is no
need for those sorts of safeguards, so training operations employing
hardware not designed for civil operation is inappropriate. *

So there should be training bombers and war bombers, training tanks
and war tanks, training rifles and war rifles, training Humvees and
war Humvees...

No. *If at all, there should be UAVs that are designed for domestic
operations during peacetime, instead of hardware designed for use in
war theaters *being used domestically. *

And unless the military can show good cause to train over cities,
their UAV training should be restricted to unpopulated areas.

We happen to be fighting a war in an Urban area right now. Do think
that it might be helpful for the troops to train in an urban
enviroment?

On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:52:06 -0700 (PDT), Gig 601XL Builder
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We happen to be fighting a war in an Urban area right now.

Is the urban area you mention green and swampy like the site in
Florida?

Do think that it might be helpful for the troops to train in an urban
enviroment?

Sure. How about over their barracks, or would that be too
inconvenient?

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


Is the urban area you mention green and swampy like the site in
Florida?

You obviously have never been to Ocala.

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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:52:06 -0700 (PDT), Gig 601XL Builder
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We happen to be fighting a war in an Urban area right now.

Is the urban area you mention green and swampy like the site in
Florida?

Urban is urban. If they were flying over swamp then what the hell are
you bitching about.




Do think that it might be helpful for the troops to train in an urban
enviroment?

Sure. How about over their barracks, or would that be too
inconvenient?

They might well need city sized area to practice. Would you be bitching
if it was a couple of kids with a R/C plane flying over the area.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 09:45:14 -0500, Gig 601Xl Builder
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:52:06 -0700 (PDT), Gig 601XL Builder
wrote in
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We happen to be fighting a war in an Urban area right now.

Is the urban area you mention green and swampy like the site in
Florida?

Urban is urban. If they were flying over swamp then what the hell are
you bitching about.


My question was meant to refute your implication that urban
Afghanistan, or Iraq bare any resemblance to Florida.




Do think that it might be helpful for the troops to train in an urban
enviroment?

Sure. How about over their barracks, or would that be too
inconvenient?

They might well need city sized area to practice. Would you be bitching
if it was a couple of kids with a R/C plane flying over the area.

It's common among modelers to assure that the aircraft is responsive
to control inputs before it is launched. Because it was reported that
the subject Raven aircraft was uncontrollable immediately after
launch, its loss of control is consistent with not having its control
responses verified before being launched.

The vast majority of modelers fly at designated fields, not over
peoples homes and highways, so the likelihood of a mishap involving
humans is less likely. If modelers can act responsibly, perhaps the
military should take a lesson.