Cessna 172R from Telluride to Aspen

Tina writes:

The JFK example was probably given to show what lack of careful
planning might cause.

But since people here have been implying that licensed pilots engage in
careful planning, this example rather undermines their argument. Of course,
many other, similar examples could be cited.

Of course there are many examples of pilots dying, Some of us try to
learn from other's mistakes. Not all lessons are learned well, and
accidents do happen. Your (attempted) superior attidude reminds me of
some studies that were done on MD pilots a long time ago, and maybe
JFK Jrs at that time: their attitude of whatever - being superior? --
led to an increased accident rate.

A lesson that might be learned by you is, if your life isn't all it
might be, adusting that attitude might be useful. But in your case,
it's probably too ingrained and way too late. Did you know many sel
airplanes burn as much value in fuel an hour as you can afford to eat
on in a week?

But I could be mistaken, you might be very happy with your life. It's
nice to recognize one's limitations.

Tina writes:

Your (attempted) superior attidude ...

I don't have a superior attitude. I simply cannot be intimidated into
submission to people who have not proved themselves worthy of respect. People
call that a "superior attitude" to try to make it seem that it's my problem,
rather than theirs.

Did you know many sel airplanes burn as much value in fuel
an hour as you can afford to eat on in a week?

Yes. So? It's an expensive hobby.

On May 13, 7:46*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Tina writes:
Your (attempted) superior attidude ...

I don't have a superior attitude. *I simply cannot be intimidated into
submission to people who have not proved themselves worthy of respect. *People
call that a "superior attitude" to try to make it seem that it's my problem,
rather than theirs.

Did you know many sel airplanes burn as much value in fuel
an hour as you can afford to eat on in a week?

Yes. *So? *It's an expensive hobby.

No, you are poor.

Cheers

Tina wrote:
Your (attempted) superior attidude reminds me of
some studies that were done on MD pilots a long time ago, and maybe
JFK Jrs at that time: their attitude of whatever - being superior? --
led to an increased accident rate.



Have a reference for those studies?

Not peer reviewed, but here's something. Note the date.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...836176,00.html


On May 13, 12:28*am, romeomike wrote:
Tina wrote:

* Your (attempted) superior attidude reminds me of

some studies that were done on MD pilots a long time ago, and maybe
JFK Jrs at that time: their attitude of whatever - being superior? --
led to an increased accident rate.

Have a reference for those studies?

Yeah, and note the dates covered by the study. Only one or two years
(not sure if it's the year 1964 to 1965 or the two tears 1964 and 1965)
extrapolated and generalized to a conclusion. Not only not peer reviewed
but not statistically significant, except possibly for the specific time
mentioned. Why just those months in an article published today, more
than 40 years later.The authors should have been able to gather numbers
from other years to strengthen their conclusions. I have no ax to grind,
just curious whenever I hear these kinds of statements as to where they
come from.


Tina wrote:
Not peer reviewed, but here's something. Note the date.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...836176,00.html


On May 13, 12:28 am, romeomike wrote:
Tina wrote:

Your (attempted) superior attidude reminds me of

some studies that were done on MD pilots a long time ago, and maybe
JFK Jrs at that time: their attitude of whatever - being superior? --
led to an increased accident rate.
Have a reference for those studies?

As I said initially, my memory is that it was a long time ago. I doubt
it's as true today for MDs, but it is an example of ego overcoming
common sense. That was my initial point, and in the context of this
post, still valid. You asked for a reference, and I gave you one. A
more careful examination may refute it. I would estimate it may
approach statistical significance. It certainly cannot be rebutted
with hand waving.

If you read the article carefully you will note it was NOT published
recently. Also, when 30 MDs are involved in accidents when if
accidents were random across the population the number would have been
a quarter of that is significant.

I think one might conclude certain professions are self selecting for
people with great self assurance and the ego to go with it. As a
matter of interest Mensa members who are not doing well in the general
population seem to exhibit that same ego characteristic: we, the
general population, are at fault for not recognizing and rewarding
their worth. I think, but cannot support the observation, that Anthony
is quite bright, so it's not a surprise that he, as a displaced
American living at the subsistence level in Paris, would have some of
those characteristics.

I'm not sure what drives Max or Bertie, but there seems to be some
pathology there too.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Tina writes:

The JFK example was probably given to show what lack of careful
planning might cause.

But since people here have been implying that licensed pilots engage in
careful planning, this example rather undermines their argument. Of course,
many other, similar examples could be cited.

It went right over your head, didn't it?

You haven't a clue.


--
Jim Pennino

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