Cessna 172R from Telluride to Aspen

Yeah, and note the dates covered by the study. Only one or two years
(not sure if it's the year 1964 to 1965 or the two tears 1964 and 1965)
extrapolated and generalized to a conclusion. Not only not peer reviewed
but not statistically significant, except possibly for the specific time
mentioned. Why just those months in an article published today, more
than 40 years later.The authors should have been able to gather numbers
from other years to strengthen their conclusions. I have no ax to grind,
just curious whenever I hear these kinds of statements as to where they
come from.


Tina wrote:
Not peer reviewed, but here's something. Note the date.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...836176,00.html


On May 13, 12:28 am, romeomike wrote:
Tina wrote:

Your (attempted) superior attidude reminds me of

some studies that were done on MD pilots a long time ago, and maybe
JFK Jrs at that time: their attitude of whatever - being superior? --
led to an increased accident rate.
Have a reference for those studies?

As I said initially, my memory is that it was a long time ago. I doubt
it's as true today for MDs, but it is an example of ego overcoming
common sense. That was my initial point, and in the context of this
post, still valid. You asked for a reference, and I gave you one. A
more careful examination may refute it. I would estimate it may
approach statistical significance. It certainly cannot be rebutted
with hand waving.

If you read the article carefully you will note it was NOT published
recently. Also, when 30 MDs are involved in accidents when if
accidents were random across the population the number would have been
a quarter of that is significant.

I think one might conclude certain professions are self selecting for
people with great self assurance and the ego to go with it. As a
matter of interest Mensa members who are not doing well in the general
population seem to exhibit that same ego characteristic: we, the
general population, are at fault for not recognizing and rewarding
their worth. I think, but cannot support the observation, that Anthony
is quite bright, so it's not a surprise that he, as a displaced
American living at the subsistence level in Paris, would have some of
those characteristics.

I'm not sure what drives Max or Bertie, but there seems to be some
pathology there too.

Tina writes:

As a matter of interest Mensa members who are not doing well in the general
population seem to exhibit that same ego characteristic: we, the
general population, are at fault for not recognizing and rewarding
their worth ...

Almost all Mensa members are socially dysfunctional; that's why they join
Mensa. Only a very tiny fraction of the people who qualify for Mensa actually
join the organization (65 million people are eligible, but the organization
has only about 70,000 members). They are self-selected for social
maladjustment.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Tina writes:

As a matter of interest Mensa members who are not doing well in the
general
population seem to exhibit that same ego characteristic: we, the
general population, are at fault for not recognizing and rewarding
their worth ...

Almost all Mensa members are socially dysfunctional; that's why they join
Mensa. Only a very tiny fraction of the people who qualify for Mensa
actually
join the organization (65 million people are eligible, but the
organization
has only about 70,000 members). They are self-selected for social
maladjustment.

Sounds like you would fit right in, if you could only qualify.

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
:


"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Tina writes:

As a matter of interest Mensa members who are not doing well in the
general
population seem to exhibit that same ego characteristic: we, the
general population, are at fault for not recognizing and rewarding
their worth ...

Almost all Mensa members are socially dysfunctional; that's why they
join Mensa. Only a very tiny fraction of the people who qualify for
Mensa actually
join the organization (65 million people are eligible, but the
organization
has only about 70,000 members). They are self-selected for social
maladjustment.

Sounds like you would fit right in, if you could only qualify.





Sounds like you could qulify if you squared your IQ.

Or cubed.


Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...


Almost all Mensa members are socially dysfunctional; that's why they join
Mensa.

My experience is exactly the opposite.

Where does your information regarding 'Almost all Mensa members' come from,
and how do you define socially dysfunctional?

"Steve Foley" wrote in
:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Almost all Mensa members are socially dysfunctional; that's why they
join Mensa.

My experience is exactly the opposite.

Where does your information regarding 'Almost all Mensa members' come
from, and how do you define socially dysfunctional?




Anthony runs the MSMS (MicroSoft Mensa Simulator).

Steve Foley writes:

My experience is exactly the opposite.

Where does your information regarding 'Almost all Mensa members' come from,
and how do you define socially dysfunctional?

I know many members of Mensa, and I've dealt with others indirectly. Almost
all of them have "issues" when it comes to human interaction. Very often they
have not been as successful as they'd like to be in one domain or another, and
joining Mensa seems to be an attempt at validating themselves in some way.
People who are smart and successful don't need to join Mensa to feel good
about themselves; people who are smart but have nothing else going for them
tend to be strongly attracted to organizations like Mensa.

There are normally adjusted Mensa members, but they are rare. Most of them
are geeks in some (negative) way.

The other high-IQ clubs are much the same.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Steve Foley writes:

My experience is exactly the opposite.

Where does your information regarding 'Almost all Mensa members' come
from,
and how do you define socially dysfunctional?

I know many members of Mensa

So you feel comfortable extrapolating your experience with 'many' members of
Mensa to 'Almost all Mensa members'. Personally, I consider the sample
inadequate.

Almost all of them have "issues" when it comes to human interaction.

You've substituted one vague definition for another.