Cessna 172R from Telluride to Aspen

Steve Foley writes:

That's not what I was taught.

It's in the Instrument Procedures Handbook.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Steve Foley writes:

That's not what I was taught.

It's in the Instrument Procedures Handbook.


Instrument procedures are NOT the only way to fly, you moron.

Buster Hymen writes:

Instrument procedures are NOT the only way to fly, you moron.

Nobody said otherwise. I simply pointed out that the design criteria for
airways are discussed in the Instrument Procedures Handbook. It explains the
type of terrain and obstacle clearance that airways nominally provide. Even
someone who doesn't want an IR would still be well advised to read this book.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Buster Hymen writes:

Instrument procedures are NOT the only way to fly, you moron.

Nobody said otherwise. I simply pointed out that the design criteria
for airways are discussed in the Instrument Procedures Handbook. It
explains the type of terrain and obstacle clearance that airways
nominally provide. Even someone who doesn't want an IR would still be
well advised to read this book.


You really are a ****ing idiot Anthony. You don't know **** from shinola
about aviation. The terrain and obstacle clearance on the airways are
designed for instrument flight. The fecal matter you call a brain can't
distinguish between VFR and IFR.

Benjamin Dover writes:

The terrain and obstacle clearance on the airways are
designed for instrument flight.

They work just as well for VFR flight.

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Benjamin Dover writes:

The terrain and obstacle clearance on the airways are
designed for instrument flight.

They work just as well for VFR flight.


No they don't and you are too ****ing stupid to understand why.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

That's not what I was taught.

It's in the Instrument Procedures Handbook.

The Instrument Procedures Handbook does not address Visual Flight Rules.

Steve Foley writes:

The Instrument Procedures Handbook does not address Visual Flight Rules.

But it does explain airways and the type of terrain and obstacle clearance
they provide (because this is very important for IFR flight).

Essentially, if you correctly fly along an airway, you can be assured of a
certain margin of clearance over obstacles and terrain. That's one of the
reasons for having airways in the first place.

There is nothing as much fun as an unskilled in the discipline person
speak authoritatively. All of this wisdom comes to us from someone
who has never had the visceral sensation of feeling the control
pressures lessen in slow flight or the sensation at the break of a
full stall. Or for that matter tries to tell us his experiment with a
high altitude simulated flight without flight planning in a 172
is somehow definitive.

Opps -- it WAS definitive, but the definition had everything to do
with the poster, not the simulation.


felt the controls On May 14, 8:17 am, Mxsmanic
wrote:
Steve Foley writes:
The Instrument Procedures Handbook does not address Visual Flight Rules.

But it does explain airways and the type of terrain and obstacle clearance
they provide (because this is very important for IFR flight).

Essentially, if you correctly fly along an airway, you can be assured of a
certain margin of clearance over obstacles and terrain. That's one of the
reasons for having airways in the first place.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Steve Foley writes:

The Instrument Procedures Handbook does not address Visual Flight Rules.

But it does explain airways and the type of terrain and obstacle clearance
they provide (because this is very important for IFR flight).

You stated you were flying VFR


Essentially, if you correctly fly along an airway, you can be assured of a
certain margin of clearance over obstacles and terrain. That's one of the
reasons for having airways in the first place.

The best terrain clearance is normally not along an airway. Mountain passes
don't care where the VORs are.