I give up, after many, many years!

This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a response
to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX.

Don't you all have a life?

It is bad enough that people reply to MX butt-lick on real topics, but to
respond to the most often posted, lamest thread, (since the dreaded down
wind turn)....

I simply have no words to express my disgust.

Are you all that lonely?

What am I missing? There are some people that I respect, or used to, that
are included in this thread.

COME ON, PEOPLE ! ! ! WAKE UP ! ! !

That sucking sound is the life being drained from this group.

RESIST THE URGE TO PARTICIPATE in ANY thread that has his participation.

I'm With Jay. I'm outta here.

It has been a nice ride; too bad a butt-lick ex-american, in paris, has the
ability to destroy a great forum.

Wake up. I won't be the last to leave, I'm sure.

Last one out, turn out the lights.

Sigh.
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a response
to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX.

Don't you all have a life?

It is bad enough that people reply to MX butt-lick on real topics, but to
respond to the most often posted, lamest thread, (since the dreaded down
wind turn)....

I simply have no words to express my disgust.

Are you all that lonely?

What am I missing? There are some people that I respect, or used to, that
are included in this thread.

COME ON, PEOPLE ! ! ! WAKE UP ! ! !

That sucking sound is the life being drained from this group.

RESIST THE URGE TO PARTICIPATE in ANY thread that has his participation.

I'm With Jay. I'm outta here.

It has been a nice ride; too bad a butt-lick ex-american, in paris, has the
ability to destroy a great forum.

Wake up. I won't be the last to leave, I'm sure.

Last one out, turn out the lights.

Sigh.

I have a criteria. If anyone posts a legitimate question in a
straightforward and respectful manner, I'll answer that post in kind if
I have an answer.
Posts that don't meet this criteria I treat as the mood hits me.
The post about the watches as far as I could determine was presented in
good faith and answered in kind.


--
Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

I have a criteria. If anyone posts a legitimate question in a
straightforward and respectful manner, I'll answer that post in kind if I
have an answer.

I humbly suggest that you change that criteria.

This is a question from a person that is about to put the last nail in the
coffin of RAP; a place that many people have come to for answers, and you
have helped to provide.

I would suspect that conservetively, there are only about 33% of the posters
stuill here that used to frequent this forum, and most of the missing have
been driven off by him and the trolls that came in "to get" him.

Would you answer questions of a known murderer, about the best way to kill
people, and not get caught? How about giving answers to a known child
abuser, about ways to get young children to come into his house?

I hope you would not honostly answer yes to the above questions, because if
you do, you need help.

You say you want to increase the safety of people flying, right? I believe
you have. If they are not in here, you can't help them. They are not here
because of a person you are enabling, by responding to.

Your criteria should include a part about not answering known trolls. It
does not take much imagination to conclude that he is a troll.

Until you and others start to see it that way, he will stay, and others will
_stay away_.

Like I said, the last one out, turn out the lights.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

I have a criteria. If anyone posts a legitimate question in a
straightforward and respectful manner, I'll answer that post in kind if I
have an answer.

I humbly suggest that you change that criteria.

This is a question from a person that is about to put the last nail in the
coffin of RAP; a place that many people have come to for answers, and you
have helped to provide.

I would suspect that conservetively, there are only about 33% of the
posters stuill here that used to frequent this forum, and most of the
missing have been driven off by him and the trolls that came in "to get"
him.

Would you answer questions of a known murderer, about the best way to kill
people, and not get caught? How about giving answers to a known child
abuser, about ways to get young children to come into his house?

I hope you would not honostly answer yes to the above questions, because
if you do, you need help.

You say you want to increase the safety of people flying, right? I
believe you have. If they are not in here, you can't help them. They are
not here because of a person you are enabling, by responding to.

Your criteria should include a part about not answering known trolls. It
does not take much imagination to conclude that he is a troll.

Until you and others start to see it that way, he will stay, and others
will _stay away_.

Like I said, the last one out, turn out the lights.
--
Jim in NC



Very well said Jim. I often disagree with you, but today is not one of those
times.

It amazes me how many otherwise sensible people, continue to enable not only
Mx, but Bertie as well, by supplying them with STRAIGHT answers.

They are literally feeding the trolls. It causes me to seriously consider
the agenda of anyone that does so.

"Maxwell" luv2^fly99@cox.^net wrote in
:


"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Dudley Henriques" wrote

I have a criteria. If anyone posts a legitimate question in a
straightforward and respectful manner, I'll answer that post in kind
if I have an answer.

I humbly suggest that you change that criteria.

This is a question from a person that is about to put the last nail
in the coffin of RAP; a place that many people have come to for
answers, and you have helped to provide.

I would suspect that conservetively, there are only about 33% of the
posters stuill here that used to frequent this forum, and most of the
missing have been driven off by him and the trolls that came in "to
get" him.

Would you answer questions of a known murderer, about the best way to
kill people, and not get caught? How about giving answers to a known
child abuser, about ways to get young children to come into his
house?

I hope you would not honostly answer yes to the above questions,
because if you do, you need help.

You say you want to increase the safety of people flying, right? I
believe you have. If they are not in here, you can't help them.
They are not here because of a person you are enabling, by responding
to.

Your criteria should include a part about not answering known trolls.
It does not take much imagination to conclude that he is a troll.

Until you and others start to see it that way, he will stay, and
others will _stay away_.

Like I said, the last one out, turn out the lights.
--
Jim in NC



Very well said Jim. I often disagree with you, but today is not one of
those times.

It amazes me how many otherwise sensible people, continue to enable
not only Mx, but Bertie as well, by supplying them with STRAIGHT
answers.

They are literally feeding the trolls. It causes me to seriously
consider the agenda of anyone that does so.



What, like you, for example?


And "seriously consider the agenda" ?

Bwawhahwhahwhahwhahwhahwhhawhhahwhahwhahhw!


Bertie

I humbly suggest that you change that criteria.

Geez, Jim -- with ALL the crap that's been going on here lately, you let a
post about a WATCH push you over the edge?

Have another beer and relax. You coming to OSH this year?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Morgans" wrote in
:


This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a
response to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX.

Don't you all have a life?

It is bad enough that people reply to MX butt-lick on real topics, but
to respond to the most often posted, lamest thread, (since the dreaded
down wind turn)....

I simply have no words to express my disgust.

Are you all that lonely?

What am I missing? There are some people that I respect, or used to,
that are included in this thread.

COME ON, PEOPLE ! ! ! WAKE UP ! ! !

That sucking sound is the life being drained from this group.

RESIST THE URGE TO PARTICIPATE in ANY thread that has his
participation.

I'm With Jay. I'm outta here.

It has been a nice ride; too bad a butt-lick ex-american, in paris,
has the ability to destroy a great forum.

Wake up. I won't be the last to leave, I'm sure.

Last one out, turn out the lights.

Sigh.

It's fun to kick MXSmoron around.

Benjamin Dover wrote in
:

"Morgans" wrote in
:


This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a
response to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX.

Don't you all have a life?

It is bad enough that people reply to MX butt-lick on real topics,
but
to respond to the most often posted, lamest thread, (since the
dreaded
down wind turn)....

I simply have no words to express my disgust.

Are you all that lonely?

What am I missing? There are some people that I respect, or used to,
that are included in this thread.

COME ON, PEOPLE ! ! ! WAKE UP ! ! !

That sucking sound is the life being drained from this group.

RESIST THE URGE TO PARTICIPATE in ANY thread that has his
participation.

I'm With Jay. I'm outta here.

It has been a nice ride; too bad a butt-lick ex-american, in paris,
has the ability to destroy a great forum.

Wake up. I won't be the last to leave, I'm sure.

Last one out, turn out the lights.

Sigh.

It's fun to kick MXSmoron around.



Voila, it's been said.


Bertie

On May 13, 5:19*pm, "Morgans"
This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a response
to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX.

Actually, the last pilot watch thread that I can remember was started
by Jay H. (I gotta admit I dont reference this list that often). I
went and got a pretty decent watch , on sale no less, after reading
that thread. I wear it every time I go flying.

Don't you all have a life?

Dont you.


I simply have no words to express my disgust.

Come on, let it all out.


What am I missing? *There are some people that I respect, or used to, that
are included in this thread.

I dont get no repsect.



That sucking sound is the life being drained from this group.

This coming from the guy who threatened to kick so and so's ass if he
showed up at Jays Oshcosh party.


I'm With Jay. *I'm outta here.

If you are "Outa here", why are you still posting?

It has been a nice ride; too bad a butt-lick ex-american, in paris, has the
ability to destroy a great forum.

Wake up. *I won't be the last to leave, I'm sure.

Last one out, turn out the lights.

James, look man, Its springtime. Go out and enjoy the nice flying WX
and the airshow season and we can pick up the bickering in November.
.
--
Jim in NC
Frank

Actually, the last pilot watch thread that I can remember was started
by Jay H. (I gotta admit I dont reference this list that often). I
went and got a pretty decent watch , on sale no less, after reading
that thread. I wear it every time I go flying.

Right -- me, too. It was a good thread, and I ended up with a great,
affordable flying watch, thanks to the recommendations from this group.

Honestly, I don't understand why Jim (or anyone else) gets so riled up over
MX. His threads are almost 100% on-topic, and who really cares if he's not
a "real" pilot? The true harm comes from the trolls who follow him
everywhere like butt-sniffing dogs, creating an atmosphere of bitterness and
anger that poisons the free exchange of information in this group.

How many great posts have been aborted, how many great posters have we lost,
simply because they see what's posted here in response to apparently benign
questions by guys like MX? Hell, if the group was like this ten years ago,
I sure wouldn't have posted all the (probably stupid) questions that I did
back then.

Back then, however, guys like Denny, and gals like Snowbird, and a host of
other incredibly experienced pilots patiently helped me learn the mysteries
and intricacies of flying and aircraft ownership. They reveled in their
ability to share their knowledge, and everyone was polite and grateful for
their help.

Later, after they had passed their knowledge on, many of us became the
"experts" that newbies approached for answers. It was, quite literally, the
perfect use for Usenet, and these groups flourished for many years. There
were simply no trolls, and no killfiles were necessary.

Oh, sure, there was the occasional spirited foray into politics, especially
during the divisive 2000 and 2004 elections -- but it was (mostly) conducted
politely and with good humor. Religion even popped in here once in a
while -- but piloting never lost center stage.

Until now.

What's especially painful is that the worst trolls here are apparently real
pilots. I've always believed that pilots were a cut-above the common man
or woman, and I've built a successful business based on that model. Every
time I come here now, though, I'm shown harsh evidence that mental illness
and a pilot's certificate are not mutually exclusive. THAT is what is so
sad -- and a little scary -- about the current state of our group.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"