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I give up, after many, many years!



 
 
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Old May 14th 08, 02:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
F. Baum
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

On May 13, 5:19*pm, "Morgans"
This is not aimed at Dan, but instead, everyone that has put up a response
to the lame thread about pilot's watches, started by MX.


Actually, the last pilot watch thread that I can remember was started
by Jay H. (I gotta admit I dont reference this list that often). I
went and got a pretty decent watch , on sale no less, after reading
that thread. I wear it every time I go flying.

Don't you all have a life?


Dont you.


I simply have no words to express my disgust.


Come on, let it all out.


What am I missing? *There are some people that I respect, or used to, that
are included in this thread.


I dont get no repsect.



That sucking sound is the life being drained from this group.


This coming from the guy who threatened to kick so and so's ass if he
showed up at Jays Oshcosh party.


I'm With Jay. *I'm outta here.


If you are "Outa here", why are you still posting?

It has been a nice ride; too bad a butt-lick ex-american, in paris, has the
ability to destroy a great forum.

Wake up. *I won't be the last to leave, I'm sure.

Last one out, turn out the lights.


James, look man, Its springtime. Go out and enjoy the nice flying WX
and the airshow season and we can pick up the bickering in November.
.
--
Jim in NC

Frank
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Old May 14th 08, 05:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

Actually, the last pilot watch thread that I can remember was started
by Jay H. (I gotta admit I dont reference this list that often). I
went and got a pretty decent watch , on sale no less, after reading
that thread. I wear it every time I go flying.


Right -- me, too. It was a good thread, and I ended up with a great,
affordable flying watch, thanks to the recommendations from this group.

Honestly, I don't understand why Jim (or anyone else) gets so riled up over
MX. His threads are almost 100% on-topic, and who really cares if he's not
a "real" pilot? The true harm comes from the trolls who follow him
everywhere like butt-sniffing dogs, creating an atmosphere of bitterness and
anger that poisons the free exchange of information in this group.

How many great posts have been aborted, how many great posters have we lost,
simply because they see what's posted here in response to apparently benign
questions by guys like MX? Hell, if the group was like this ten years ago,
I sure wouldn't have posted all the (probably stupid) questions that I did
back then.

Back then, however, guys like Denny, and gals like Snowbird, and a host of
other incredibly experienced pilots patiently helped me learn the mysteries
and intricacies of flying and aircraft ownership. They reveled in their
ability to share their knowledge, and everyone was polite and grateful for
their help.

Later, after they had passed their knowledge on, many of us became the
"experts" that newbies approached for answers. It was, quite literally, the
perfect use for Usenet, and these groups flourished for many years. There
were simply no trolls, and no killfiles were necessary.

Oh, sure, there was the occasional spirited foray into politics, especially
during the divisive 2000 and 2004 elections -- but it was (mostly) conducted
politely and with good humor. Religion even popped in here once in a
while -- but piloting never lost center stage.

Until now.

What's especially painful is that the worst trolls here are apparently real
pilots. I've always believed that pilots were a cut-above the common man
or woman, and I've built a successful business based on that model. Every
time I come here now, though, I'm shown harsh evidence that mental illness
and a pilot's certificate are not mutually exclusive. THAT is what is so
sad -- and a little scary -- about the current state of our group.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old May 14th 08, 09:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Maxwell[_2_]
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Default I give up, after many, many years!


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:idEWj.163686$yE1.109396@attbi_s21...

Damn Jay, I'm really surprised you would take up for that piece of ****. Mx
is not your friend, or any one else's. You need to spend more time observing
his behavior ALL the time, before you take up his cause.

As for the old days, we have always had problems with things like this. Can
you say "Liability Stealth". The biggest difference back then was 90% of the
players were a smaller, and closed knit group. They more often agreed who to
shun, and poke **** at. Today there are so many new players, many who only
THINK they know the ropes, and it confuses the mix.

EVERYONE needs to be much more careful about who the attack, and who the
real problem children really are.








 




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