Cessna 172R from Telluride to Aspen

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Most pilots who kill themselves have a long history of
incidents prior to the one that finally kills them.

This statement sounds like pure conjecture on your part.

Oh, this can be parsed to death. Are you ready for a Clintonization
along the lines of "It depends on what 'incidents' means"?

Unless you believe in reincarnation (going to come back as MX?) you
get to star in only one fatal accident.




On May 14, 7:11 am, "Steve Foley" wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message

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Most pilots who kill themselves have a long history of
incidents prior to the one that finally kills them.

This statement sounds like pure conjecture on your part.

Steve Foley writes:

This statement sounds like pure conjecture on your part.

Perhaps, but it is based on NTSB and JAMA special reports that I have read. I
don't think they engage in conjecture.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

This statement sounds like pure conjecture on your part.

Perhaps, but it is based on NTSB and JAMA special reports that I have
read. I
don't think they engage in conjecture.

NTSB reports don't list prior incidents. In fact, they rarely identify the
pilot.

Steve Foley writes:

NTSB reports don't list prior incidents. In fact, they rarely identify the
pilot.

Perhaps the word "special" escaped your notice. You can download them from
the NTSB site.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
Steve Foley writes:

NTSB reports don't list prior incidents. In fact, they rarely identify
the
pilot.

Perhaps the word "special" escaped your notice. You can download them
from
the NTSB site.

The NTSB does not produce 'Special' reports on 'most pilots who kill
themselves'.

Steve Foley writes:

The NTSB does not produce 'Special' reports on 'most pilots who kill
themselves'.

From NTSB/SS-05/01:

Accident, Incident, and Violation History

A review of the accident and incident history of study pilots indicated
that 19 percent of accident pilots had an accident or incident before the
study accident. In four of these cases, the event included in the study was
the pilot's third recorded mishap. In contrast, figure 14 shows that a smaller
proportion of pilots in the nonaccident control group were ever involved in an
accident or incident. The differences in accident and incident history between
groups was statistically significant, .2 (1, N = 207) = 3.99, p = .046, with a
larger percentage of accident pilots having been involved in a prior
occurrence.

In addition to accidents and incidents, FAA records indicated that 6 of the 72
study accident pilots had civil aviation violations on their records, in
contrast to only 3 of the 135 nonaccident pilots. The descriptive comparison
suggests that a higher percentage of accident pilots had violation records,
but because of the small numbers of all study pilots with violations,
statistical analyses were not conducted for these values.