Which aircraft will live in history forever?

Cub Driver wrote in message . ..
DeHavilland Comet (the first jet airliner, marking a new era in
civilian transport)

Carried too few passengers at too high a cost. It was the Concorde of
its day, without the longevity. A conceptual dead end.

Pretty good at hunting subs though....
David

"ArtKramr" kirjoitti
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Which ones?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
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Ilyushin Il-2/Il-10
Polikarpov U-2/Po-2
Ilya Muromets, first four engine airplane

Dave Kearton wrote:

: The difficulty I have with the Spirit of St Louis is that it's a US national
: icon and that there's bound to be a fair amount of emotion tied up in
: defending it.

It was a good design for the flight; but it was only
Lindbergh's second best option. He really wanted to
have the Bellanca in which Chamberlin and Levin flew
from New York to Berlin, a few day's after Lindbergh's
flight from New York to Paris. Note that the Bellanca
was able to make a longer flight, carrying two people
instead of one, and was a practical aircraft for daily
use (which the Spirit of St. Louis emphatically was
not). Later another Bellanca made the first non-stop
crossing of the Pacific.

: The plane that seems to have avoided the Usenet radar is the Vickers Vimy
: that Alcock and Brown used to FIRST fly across the Atlantic.

The Vimy was a fairly conservative design, very much
a WWI bomber and nothing more.

IMHO the really great aircraft of the period was the
Fokker F.VII/3m, especially the version with Wright
Whirlwind engines. This not only made great long-distance
flights, but it also opened transcontinental routes
for commercial traffic.

Emmanuel Gustin
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http://users.skynet.be/Emmanuel.Gustin/

Subject: Which aircraft will live in history forever?
From: "Emmanuel.Gustin"
Date: 11/28/03 3:05 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

he difficulty I have with the Spirit of St Louis is that it's a US national
: icon and that there's bound to be a fair amount of emotion tied up in
: defending it.


It was a good design for the flight; but it was only
Lindbergh's second best option. He really wanted to
have the Bellanca in which Chamberlin and Levin flew
from New York to Berlin, a few day's after Lindbergh's
flight from New York to Paris.

But will the Spirit of St. Louis live in history forever? That is the question
at hand.

Regards,



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

do you know us are not alone in the aero stories ?

--
Franck

www.pegase-airshow.com
www.picavia.com

Bleriot XI
Spad XIII
Mirage III
Concorde & Boeing 747

and the first one : Spitfire

sorry for the US member, i think US is not alone in the aviation world

--
Franck

www.pegase-airshow.com
www.picavia.com

Or, the first straight winged aircraft to break the sound barrier -- the
Avro Canada CF-100 piloted by Janusz Zurakowski.

Dan Shackelford wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:51:43 +0000, Bjørnar Bolsøy wrote:


Scott Ferrin wrote in
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Wright Flyer
B-29 (nuked Japan)
U-2 (Cold War Symbol)
Concord
SR-71
Harrier (First real VTOL)
B-52 (if it ever *becomes* "history") Me 262
X-1
X-15
KC-135


The Bell X-1, for breaking the notorious soundbarrier, thereby writing
itself into history as one of the greatest aviation moments of all times.


Except for the fact that the X-1 was NOT the first manned aircraft to
break the sound barrier, it was the F-86 that broke the sound barrier
first. One of the great myths in aviation lore is that the X-1 was first.



Regards...

On 27 Nov 2003 02:51:50 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:

Which ones?

Lots of great candidates. A key discriminator is whether you wish to
base the choice on significance of the aircraft itself--i.e., the
aeronautical achievement of the airplane, or the historic significance
of what the particular aircraft did.

If based on the aircaft, then I'd list:
Wright Flyer
C-47
B-707
SR-71
X-1
X-15
Spirit of St. Louis
.....and some others.

If based on historic achievements, the list shifts toward military
aircraft. Then a few important candidates for the short list:

Spad
Nieuport
Fokker
Spitfire
Me-109
Mustang
B-17
B-24
B-29
B-36
B-52
F-86
F-105
F-4
F-15
MiG-17
MiG-21
F-117

Let's refine criteria and then we can refine the list.

"Avro Canada Archives" wrote in message
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Or, the first straight winged aircraft to break the sound barrier -- the
Avro Canada CF-100 piloted by Janusz Zurakowski.

The Bell X-1 had straight wings.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/galleries/gal100/bellX1.html

Tex

"Tex Houston" Or, the first straight winged aircraft to break the sound
barrier -- the
Avro Canada CF-100 piloted by Janusz Zurakowski.

The Bell X-1 had straight wings.
http://www.nasm.si.edu/galleries/gal100/bellX1.html

Tex
The Bell X-1 was a rocket powered aircraft, not a jet!
Ed